Finally after looking and reading so much info on this site, I bought a PC and pads from CMA. I also bought some Z products. I used everything this past weekend. And the results are WOW! After the major wash and clay job it was time for the PC and some DACP. I followd that with #9. This all looked good but still had the Z5 and Z2. Sorry i do not have a digital camera at home so no pics. I just wanted to say i have learned so much from being on this site and thanks for all the info you all have provided.