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Here are two quotes from Terry Frieberg of CMA. One from his interview with DavidB and another as part of the product description of BF:



"We got the solvent content of BLACKFIRE under 15% and we use a very mild mineral spirit. It is exceedingly paint friendly. Even over years of monthly waxings it will not dry out or deteriorate the top paint layer."



"Carnauba also requires a petroleum solvent base which can weaken and dry the top paint layer. (I know, there is a manufacturer of paste waxes that claim their waxes contain no petroleum solvents. They lie! Look at their Material Safety Data Sheet which they are required by law to make available to consumers. They list on their sheet that their waxes contain a mineral spirit!)"



I plan to apply carnauba waxes like Pinnacle Souveran and Blitz very frequently for many years to my car as a topper for Klasse. However, I'm a bit leery of doing so if there is any possibility that using a solvent based carnauba wax will actually deteriorate or "dry out" my clear coat. Does anybody know if using carnauba waxes frequently for many years actually does this to a car or is this just marketing hype for Blackfire? Also, doesn't Klasse SG contain a good amount of petroleum solvents? I know that AIO does because I can smell it! Any input would be highly appreciated.
 
Carnubas need solvents in them to keep the carnuba itself workable. Otherwise it would be a solid block. Some waxes are cleaner waxes and use huge amounts of heavy duty solvents to clean and strip old wax deposits. But the waxes you mentioned, Pinnacle Souveran and Blitz are not cleaner waxes and have no excess solvents. This will not hurt your paint. And with your base of Klasse SG your paint is even better protected from the elements. KSG itself is also totally safe and will protect not harm or dry your paint.
 
You have to be careful, most hi solvent formulas also contain abrasives. That is something I would be more weary of using on a regular basis than hi solvents. The other thing with some carnubas is silicone oil. Many formulas contain it, and that is something I would just flat out avoid. If you ever have to get your car repainted it's a body shops nightmare.
 
Most products use some form of polydimethalsiloxanes or polyamniosiloxanes and is not a problem for the bodyshops.



You see, when they use the prepsol type products before sanding, takes it off and then they sand.



I am 57, soon to be 58 and painted my first vehicle 50 years ago, still pick up a gun once in awhile to prepare test panels, so know a thing or two about this subject.



There are some products that do not use either of the components, but they are intended for people who are constantly applying some sort of product to keep a shine going.



The ones that most the companies produce that contain these products are designed for those who do their cars once or twice a year.



However, even if you applied them once a month, the clear is not going to be worn away.



Just the old "scare them by preying on their fears" marketing approach, for the most part, but like anything else, there are exceptions.



Ketch





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Thanks Ketch and thanks again DK and Brad. I sort of figured so and just wanted to get some confirming opinions. I can't think of three people I'd rather get it from than you guys.
 
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