Winter Protection & Durability

Hondaman

I think it means just what it says, the layers of UPP that rabbi applied are 18/23rd's thick or about .78 of an inch.
If you tried to fit a NASCAR template over the car it'd probably fail 'cause it's too wide, too long, and too tall.


just kidding
 
rabbi,

Looks like an excellent test, please make sure to post your results in the spring.

As I said I'm very new at this so what do you use to remove the multi-layered products when you're doing a major detailing in the spring or when you want a fresh surface to try a new combo?

Is it a matter of washing with the correct product(s) or do you get after the surface with some SSR1, FPII, or similar product so you're starting with a fresh surface?

Thanks
 
That can't be....I read here or elsewhere that a standard layer of protection (sealant, wax, whatever) is only .006-.008 of an inch thick.

18/23rds of an inch would mean 100 layers.

Can't be.
 
Hondaman,

like I said, just kidding. I'm sure it means rabbi has 18 to 23 layers of UPP. The whole car has 18 layers and some areas, probably hood, roof & read deck, have an extra 5 layers.

I wonder if layering reaches a point of diminishing returns after about 5 or 6 layers. I know the products go on / come off easy and not alot of product is used if applied correctly, but do the extra layers PROTECT the paint better or do the extra layers make it LOOK better, you know, more reflective.

Just wondering.
 
18 coats to 23 coats of UPP on my car and 15 to 18 coats on my wife's. I put on so many coats on I lost count. On my car I used Poorboy's ProPolish to clean my car up. By March there wasn't much left if any. In Cincinnati the highway mtce. crew get carried away with dumping salt. On my wife's I used UPC. Before I applied these cleaners I clayed.
 
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You must be putting it on weeklyr or more frequently...I mean, doesn't it degrade after a while anyway? After a certain point, I would think that regular washing, other coats of UPP or detailing products, or the elements would "take off" the earlier coats.

Or render them less effective.

Or are they "sealed in below" and maintained?

Whatever, I just thought there was bigtime diminishing marginal returns after 4 or 5 or 6 coats.
 
I believe people will differ on their opinions of this. Also, it is all in what you like. Do whatever you think looks best for the car. I like to put numerous layers on as well. If it doesn't 'layer' at least I know I am having a constant 'new' layer of protection. It also keeps the car looking good too. I don't think you can go wrong as long as you like what the finshed product looks like.
 
well stated, it comes down to personal preference.

If you think it looks good / protects better / lasts longer then that's what's right for you.

I'm always open to hear other's opinions on products, product application, and different combo's. It's a good way to learn without "reinventing the wheel".
 
Yup, good point Jared....since I am time-constrained, I doubt I can ever get to 18 layers...but I do intend to do some double-weekend multi-layering in the fall ahead of the winter season here in NY. Multiple PB or Klasse followed by some UPP coats or PB finishes, all double-or triple layered.

Should hold together for 3-4 months in the NY winter, since my car will be garaged.
 
One thing you might be able to do. ( I do it)
If your garage has decent lighting and is fairly weathertight, buy a kerosene heater and heat it enough to detail your car on one of the decent winter days. 60 dgrees and over in the garage seems to let me do a decent job with Meg's #9, AIO, UPP, PwC, and NXT.
My garage is 25' x 32', not insulated. I run a construction type, fan forced torpedo heater of 100,000 BTU's for about 10 to 15 minutes and then turn it off and have at the vehicles.
Be sure you have sufficient fresh air for whatever type of heater you might use. I block the entrance door open about 6" while I run mine. Then close the door when I shut it off.

Charles
 
Hey charlesw, your input is appreciated

I actually considered a torpedo heater but it's tough to justify the cost when it's going to be used 2 or 3 times a year.

But you're right, it is an alternative solution.
 
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Hey charlesw, your input is appreciated

I actually considered a torpedo heater but it's tough to justify the cost when it's going to be used 2 or 3 times a year.

But you're right, it is an alternative solution.
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Hey, it's for your car. Money can't come between you and your car. :-p
Mine gets used at least once or twice a week during the winter. For washing the vehicles, I go to the spray wash and knock off the big chunks, then do the S&W thing in the garage.

Charles
 
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