Will NXT Remove AIO Acrylics?

BlueDragonZ said:
In My Opinion it is. :D

And of course I'm just basing this like what you said, "just because one looks good over the other."

I'm thinking if they're not compatible then it would have adverse effects on the paint. This is how I feel about this and if it's wrong :nixweiss oh well what do I know?
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If it works why fix it or question it.



Real world vs theorical. I'll take the real world. :xyxthumbs
 
Terry said:
I use AIO & NXT alot.....especially on vehicles that are in decent shape & the client only wants to pay for two steps. I think it looks good and it's affordable & easy. I did this Escalade yesterday.
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Looks good. :xyxthumbs

I definately like the AIO & NXT combo.

I also tried Ps & NXT and vice versa which actually was a better combo but doesn't come close to this combo. I will probably try a couple coats of AIO next time then NXT. HHMMM can't wait. :xyxthumbs
 
Those are beatifully clean cars in the pics. Like its been said many times, its all in the prep. The better that you clean the finish, the better the car will look after its waxed. Clean paint looks great, no matter what you clean it with. AIO, MPPC, GEPC, PPCL, etc. It makes perfect sense to clean the paint with something before waxing it.



NXT contains cleaners as well. It cleans exeptionally well. The amount of protection that AIO offers is minimal compared to its cleaners and polish. Much less than say, Zaino or SG. From what Ive seen firsthand, and from tests Ive seen by other people here, NXT will remove Zaino and SG. . If these sealants are more durable and offer a higer level of protection than AIO, then it makes perfect sense to "theorize" that it will remove any acrylic in AIO as well.

Of course im only trying to apply common sense to this theory, but your results should improve from using any cleaner to prep the paint.



Not trying to sound insulting here. This only said in jest to make a point. As perfect a product as NXT is, Im sure it doesnt contain any magic pixie dust that cleans the paint and leaves the small amount of acrylic in AIO. Yet will strip Zaino and the higer acrylic content in SG. its just not that "smart" of a single step.
 
Well, I used AIO/NXT/S100 on my car, and it looked real alive after the coat of s100. Now, I know there is a concern about the nxt removing anything as far as the aio is concerned, but I am still a little unclear on this. I am of the thought that you would have a mixture of both aio and nxt on the paint, with most of the mixture being nxt, cause of the cleaners in nxt lifting some of the aio off the paint. Don't think anyone knows how strong the cleaners in nxt are, and if they are strong enough to totally remove anything before it. Mike might can enlighten us on this subject.
 
The AIO is claimed to leave an acrylic layer, but IMO the products main purpose is to provide a chemically cleaned base for LSP's ( be it SG, NXT, PS21 or whatever - AIO IMO is a very versatile product ).

So what if NXT removes any AIO acrylic, the NXT is the layer that is doing the protecting as it is the top layer!?!



The "Will it remove AIO" question seems like a moot point to me....



EDIT: Ah, good time, just noticed I cracked "the ton" :xyxthumbs
 
Deep_Freeze said:
Well, I used AIO/NXT/S100 on my car, and it looked real alive after the coat of s100. Now, I know there is a concern about the nxt removing anything as far as the aio is concerned, but I am still a little unclear on this. I am of the thought that you would have a mixture of both aio and nxt on the paint, with most of the mixture being nxt, cause of the cleaners in nxt lifting some of the aio off the paint. Don't think anyone knows how strong the cleaners in nxt are, and if they are strong enough to totally remove anything before it. Mike might can enlighten us on this subject.
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The results you're seeing are likely the permanent, mechanical effects of AIO -- the abrasives and cleaners are prepping your surface to perfection. NXT should not undo this, but will, however, remove the short-term AIO properties -- the acrylic protection. Makes sense? It's not only about the looks.
 
BW said:
The results you're seeing are likely the permanent, mechanical effects of AIO -- the abrasives and cleaners are prepping your surface to perfection. NXT should not undo this, but will, however, remove the short-term AIO properties -- the acrylic protection. Makes sense?
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Very likely true.







It's not only about the looks.
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For some of us it is -appearance over mega-protection. 4 of my 6 cars are garaged. The last 2 are detailed when needed no matter the situation (i.e. winter). Paint maintenance is like going to the gym. We can come up with many excuses not to do both, but they are just that excuses.





Lived in New England for over 40 years and maintained my vehicles year-round with carnuabas when Acrylics was just a dealer's way of making money on each vehicle sale. :wavey
 
BW said:
The results you're seeing are likely the permanent, mechanical effects of AIO -- the abrasives and cleaners are prepping your surface to perfection. NXT should not undo this, but will, however, remove the short-term AIO properties -- the acrylic protection. Makes sense? It's not only about the looks.
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Yeah, I understand what you are saying. IF you believe the manufactor, AIO is supposed to put down a protective layer that is supposed to last for 6 months. Seems noone on this forum actually believes that, and most say it offers little protection, and is best used for its cleaning properties. With that being the case, the only protection you would be getting is the layer of NXT.



I wanted something that had UV protection and such on my paint for the summer, so I went with the NXT to do this for me. NXT is supposed to be a polymer, and I am treating it as such. As for slickness, I really don't care about this with NXT, cause it is under the s100 on my car. I will be putting a layer of s100 on my car at least once a month this summer, and I hope the NXT can stay all summer with the layer of s100 on top of it. Guess the durability of NXT matters less to me, cause I will always have s100 above it. All I can do is hope there is NXT on the car, and it stays on cause of the s100 is above it.



Anyway, need to get outside and buff off that second coat of s100!!!!!
 
So, I gather that the consensus is that NXT WILL remove the acrylic in Klasse AIO, Klasse SG, and 4-Star UPP.



Has there been any definitive information on that? Is there actually any way to know for sure?



I'd been kicking around the idea of using a Klasse AIO/Klasse SG X 3-4/NXT/P21S regimen on my car.



However, if the NXT strips off the SG, I'm not going to go that route.
 
Then let's say using Z5 over AIO instead of NXT be a better choice as it has no cleaning abilities and will not remove anything from AIO.The only thing then would be a bonding issue with Zaino and AIO.I've seen both pro and con here using the two.
 
I detailed a white, single stage paint Accord in late January using AIO/NXT and when I washed it last Friday (April 2), it was beading like crazy and felt even slicker than the Lexus right next to it that I had waxed with the Wolfgang twins in mid March.



I want to do some more testing, but it seems like AIO/NXT is a pretty durable combination...at least based on this particular vehicle.
 
I think the bottom line here (with all the bickering notwithstanding) is that NXT over AIO or *any other good paint cleaner* will work fine...regardless of whether or not NXT will remove the acrylic protection from AIO. If AIO is removed, or just partially removed....no big loss because you'll still benefit from the improved surface quality caused by AIO's cleaning action.



BTW, BlueDragon, can you tell me an example of a product combo that, due to their incompatibility, would have an adverse effect on your paint surface? I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your statement....just curious to know exactly how this can happen.
 
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