Will melting Carnaubas Blow you up!?

txz28 said:
Sealants typically rely on chemical bonding in addition the the mechanical bonding fo waxes. Typically the are polymeric compounds that rely on additional chemical reactions.
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To itself. Not to the surface it adheres to. That is left unchanged from my understanding.
 
One thing I definitely want to try when it gets really warm out is to take a cheap paste wax, which almost certainly has little carnauba, and add pure carnauba to the mix. Then we could see what that does to both look, application and durability.



of course, the pro companies have done more comprehensive testing, but I think it should be informative for me to try this myself.
 
Dont forget in the formulation the carnuba is suspended in solvents which will lower the melting point. Carnuba wax when in it's pure form on your car will melt a bit higher than that, but not much. And yes that explains poor performance of this type of product in hot climates....
 
It's not the carnauba that can cause the explosion in this experiment, but the solvents - they're the explosive part of the equation.



You appear to be conducting your experiment is an open area. I wouldn't want to be in a confined area with solvents and a torch.....
 
You mean "freebasing".....(is that term still used)?



I have to admit, this "carnauba melting" is new even to me!
 
DETAILKING said:
Dont forget in the formulation the carnuba is suspended in solvents which will lower the melting point. Carnuba wax when in it's pure form on your car will melt a bit higher than that, but not much. And yes that explains poor performance of this type of product in hot climates....
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The wax sited P21S also contains Bees wax, which is why the 'Carnauba' (130oF) wax didn't reach the usual melting point of 180oF
 
TOGWT said:
The wax sited P21S also contains Bees wax, which is why the 'Carnauba' (130oF) wax didn't reach the usual melting point of 180oF
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Most formulas contain bees wax, paraffin wax, or polyethylene wax for water beading qualities (carnuba is poor) which effect melting point as well.......
 
I tried a similar "experiment" once with Mother's California Gold. Only I used the torch directly on the wax in the can. (The wax had started to crack & crumble from not being used for a while, so, I figured what the hell, it's wax, I'll just melt it back together again.) WRONG!!! All was working well for a few minutes untill a small flame started & continued to grow to about a foot high. It would not go out. I started to panic & blew on the flame, spilling the now molten wax all over the top of my work bench. I now had a giant can of carnauba sterno burning like hell in the can & more burning on my wood topped work bench, I was able to put out the flames on the bench, but the wax kept burning stronger in the can. Finally lout of desperation I grabbed a big pair of channel lock pliers & grabbed the can & threw it out on the driveway where it finally went out. I now have a big mellted wax splash on my blacktopped driveway that looks like a giant bird took a huge dump! What was I thinkin".....P.S. I'll bet I'm the only one here that ever waxed his driveway.
 
Probably looked like what I find on my car whenever a bird hits it. Always looks like a vulture that devoured roadkill flew over my car. :(
 
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