will megs #205 replace my tried & tru #80 ??

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steck

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havent kept up to all this #105 and #205 stuff...



still using old school #85,#83 and finally #80 as my basic steps, but wondering where #205 fits in ??



edumacate me..
 
I haven't touched my #84,#83,#82 and #80 since the 105/205 combo. Its way more work, for less results.
 
Since I am "done" trying every sealant under the sun (practically) I am now on a mission to try a bunch of different polishes.



M205 will be purchased in the next week.
 
I still kinda prefer #80 on single stage for a number of reasons, one of which is the way it's finish is *not* leave quite as sharply reflective. Different looks for different applications.



Also, there are cases when I *want* to leave more of the Meguiar's Trade Secret Oils behind (not just for concealing) and/or want the fresh-paint-safe polymers. The oils that M205 leaves behind aren't the same sort of stuff by a long shot; it' s not the same sort of pretty-long-lived glaze effect, with M205 it's just residual polishing oils.



Finally, the abrasives are just *different*. It's sorta like those in M205 are simply sharper whereas the ones in #80 are bigger, or something.. :nixweiss No, it's not like they just have more cut that the initial bite of #80, just a different *sort* of bite. I know I'm not verbalizing that well, but they're just two different types of polish.



Mike Phillips has mentioned using #80 *before* M205 in some cases, but I don't recall his rationale for doing so :think:
 
Its time you joined the modern era...

As always, there are still those who will prefer the older products, but overall, it sure is a hard product to beat.
 
I'm in the same boat. I still use M80 and am about out....wondering if I should just replace it with M205, but don't know much about it.



How is the cut of M205 vs. M80? Which cuts faster? Which leaves a nicer finish? These are the three questions that matter to me. I've been very happy with M80 so am apprehensive to switch....even to another Megs product.
 
Got_Leather said:
The one thing I do like about #80 and will use it is if the person is looking to simply sell the car.
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or those people who haggle on price...!!! $30/gal vs. $80/gal....hmmmm tough choice, especially when you throw in compounding the hood for free to deal with water spots!
 
Well #80 fills enough and looks great so if they are selling and not worried about correction, 80 is perfect for the job. it's cheap to buy and will cover enough to get the car sold.
 
Accumulator said:
M205 cuts more and faster, especially on harder clear. It also finishes out nicer.
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Lets see: M205 cuts 1) more 2) faster 3) especially on hard clears 4) finishes out nicer.



M80: 1) finish is *not* quite as sharply reflective which is good for SS paint.



Sounds like M205 FTW in most situations.
 
Accumulator said:
I still kinda prefer #80 on single stage for a number of reasons, one of which is the way it's finish is *not* leave quite as sharply reflective. Different looks for different applications.
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Agreed. Meguiars 80 series products are good to keep around for single stage paint. #80 followed by Ultrafina (both via rotary) looked incredible on a customer's red 348 Spider.



When it comes to clear coats, #205 is hard to beat.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
Lets see: M205 cuts 1) more 2) faster 3) especially on hard clears 4) finishes out nicer.



M80: 1) finish is *not* quite as sharply reflective which is good for SS paint.



Sounds like M205 FTW in most situations.
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Yeah, in *most* situations.



As ScottWax noted, those of us working on SS, or with weirdly specific considerations/goals in mind, might be the only people who really need to keep #80 on the shelf these days.



The last time I used #80 was on some (poorly :rolleyes: ) repainted wheels. It cleaned/polished/protected them quite well during the curing process. And I can't help but think that the "softer" abrasives in #80 might've been a better idea on the Yukon's wheels, which M205 seemed to (very lightly) haze.



Also, I can't help but think how M80 does *not* have the "residual oils" issue that can plague M205. Not sure if/how that factors in, but it's worth mentioning.
 
so M80 is so 'yesterday'..got it.





i'll do the 105/205 in spring when the fever hits...





not being around for awhile, is this process pretty fool proof:



105 with rotary (say white pad) and 205 with PC (also white pad) ??
 
Accumulator said:
Yeah, in *most* situations.



As ScottWax noted, those of us working on SS, or with weirdly specific considerations/goals in mind, might be the only people who really need to keep #80 on the shelf these days.
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Heh, I know exactly what you mean. Take a look at my thread on the wet sanding of that '66 Chevy Nova!



My yellow Mazda Protege 5 has a SS paint job on it too.
 
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