Will CMA carry these new polishing pads??

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wchen

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Eimann fabrik black opal is horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:



I tried some out 2 weeks in a row and I hate this stuff. It slings so bad I had black marks all over the side of my truck.



I even tried eagle one tire swipes and letting it sit all night before driving off. It still slinged junk all over my baby. This stuff is a mess.



When it came time to wash my truck it took so much extra effort on the tires, and rims to get this junk off.



I read another post about problems with this product but it was after the fact. I am looking for a very high gloss resonably priced store bought tire dressing.



I absolutly adore 303 but I save it for my interior. I have tried meguires endurance, and black magic tire wet and I dont care for those either. I am set on most products I use, except tire dressing. Any suggestions???????????



ps: I have about 5 bottles of different tire dressings when I get some suggestions maybe I will do a tire with each and recap the results here.



ps: I missed this forum you guys are great. Ive been traveling.



Thank,

SPAWN
 
I have tried a few different ones and I prefer Meguiars Endurance (regular not high-gloss) but I am about to try some 303 thanks to an excellent person on this board giving me a bottle to try! I'll share my opinions!
 
have had success with the TW Finish2001 Tire gel stuff. The one in the green bottle. I can not find it locally. SO I am still loking for sources.



I also had a bad experience with BO.
 
tried it all except for zaino stuff, all the shiny stuff is okay, but when it fades off it leaves brown :(



I use Black Magic on my tires for the moment (they are black for now), still searching for something with more of a sheen yet less brown if not in use.



tried the TW stuff, and pretty sure it eventually browned too, i'll try it again to make sure, (it does say, if i'm not mistaken, you can use it on vinyl, which might make it more credible as a tire dressing)
 
If you want a decent shine, try Vinylex and EO Concourse Tire shine. They are good products. BO is a greasy, oily mess of a product, suprisingly coming from a well-respected company.
 
Don't trash EF Black Opal!

It may not work for "you" for tires and here's why: A lot depends upon your application method. BO is meant to be rubbed in and wiped or buffed off. (most dressings are) If this is not done it WILL sling excess. In fact, I have yet to find a dressing that did not sling when the product is overapplied.

The sipes, grooves and design of many tires have hundreds of little edges and depressions that hold excess dressing. It is sometimes dearly impossible to wipe off the excess and the result is slinging dressing.

Some dressings are thicker than others. Gels are the hardest to deal with and the most difficult to buff off. BO is a thicker dressing. Zaino is a little thinner. 303 and EagleOne Concours are thinner than Zaino. <strong class='bbc'>ALL[/b] of these will sling if overapplied.

Is BO my favorite dressing? No. But it's not a bad or faulty product. If you don't prefer it, fine. But please don't start rumors that it is a "bad" product.
 
My experience with non water-based silicon dressings is that they will sling off if you don't give them a final wipe down. I like EF Black Opal in the wheel wells and under the hood. It cleans rubber and plastic very well.



For those who want a really glossy look, I recommend using several applications of Black Again followed by Vinylex. If you want a spray-and-walk-away product, try Stoner's More Shine Less Time spray. It's glossy and won't sling off.
 
you HAVE to buff it out. I usually spray it on, and let it sit for about 15-20+ minutes, and then use a tire swipe to buff out the excess. Looks really great (and shiny!) when done.



I wish EF would make a BO Tire Gel, the spray on stuff is a pain in the rear and you waste sooooo much product when you spray. Although it doesn't have a prayer in a rain storm, it does last a week if it doesnt rain. I have to say its probably one of the better dressings on the market, IMHO, i know may of you will dissagree. I can't really say with confidence there is one great overall tire dressing out there...although i want to try Eagle One Concourse dressing.
 
I use BO and Vinylex on my tires. I apply BO with a tire swipe, let it sit then buff it off. Don't have any problems with it slinging on the paint. BO is oily and only a little is needed.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Brad B. [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Don't trash EF Black Opal!

It may not work for "you" for tires and here's why: A lot depends upon your application method. BO is meant to be rubbed in and wiped or buffed off. (most dressings are) If this is not done it WILL sling excess. In fact, I have yet to find a dressing that did not sling when the product is overapplied.

The sipes, grooves and design of many tires have hundreds of little edges and depressions that hold excess dressing. It is sometimes dearly impossible to wipe off the excess and the result is slinging dressing.

Some dressings are thicker than others. Gels are the hardest to deal with and the most difficult to buff off. BO is a thicker dressing. Zaino is a little thinner. 303 and EagleOne Concours are thinner than Zaino. <strong class='bbc'>ALL[/b] of these will sling if overapplied.

Is BO my favorite dressing? No. But it's not a bad or faulty product. If you don't prefer it, fine. But please don't start rumors that it is a "bad" product. [/b]</blockquote>


Definition of rumor is - a story or report in general circulation, but without knowledge or proof of truth .

Well lets see I have first hand knowledge this product and it bites. As far as Proof of truth just do a search on EF Black Opal and see how many negative experiances many have had.

The purpose of this forum is for people to gain knowledge by others experiances whether or not they are favorable or not. How about if everybody on this board said nothing but favorable comments about every product. This board would not be to credible huh.

I gave this product many chances, I buffed it, I waited overnight before drive off, you name it I tried it, and this is fact not rumor !

Brad B no offense, I have learned many valueble detaling tips from you and respect your status on this forum, but I have to question your use of the word rumor. Its not like I came on the board and said Zaino OR Klasse is a bad product. Yes I understand Black opal is not your favorite product, but it seems to me, and some others, that it is in fact a "bad" product.

Thanks for the suggestions everybody I will give the Turtlewax Finish 2001 a shot.
;)

No flames intended

ss
 
I think bottom line in this situation is that the product didn't work for you. That's cool, everyone has different expextations of different products and BO didn't meet yours, no big deal, doesn't make it good or bad. The beauty of a forum is that everyone shares their experiences (as you stated), and we can learn from one another.



There could be a million and a half reasons why BO didn't work, it could be your tires didn't allow the product to soak in, the temp it was applied at, and the list goes on and on, but the bottom line is that it didn't work, so you'll add BO to the shelf of product that don't meet your expectations. So keep looking and sharing your experiences!



Sorry for the ramble, its getting late!
 
For what it's worth, I use it on my Michelin Pilot SX tires on my BMW. And I usually put on a couple of coats. I apply it with Eagle One tire swipes; I spray it on the swipes a couple of times for each tire, so that I can see the tire moist or damp (not dripping wet). After I do each tire, I'll go work on something else for 15 minutes or so, and then apply another coat. I don't wipe it off, buff it off, or touch it at all after I apply it. I've never had a problem with it "slinging" off onto my wheels, my car, or my driveway. It does get on my gloves though when I'm applying it.



Not sure if this makes a difference, but I usually don't drive my car around after I wash it. I just drive it into my garage, where it sits overnight. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it not slinging off.



Sorry that it hasn't worked as well for other people.



-- Ed
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Ed [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>For what it's worth, I use it on my Michelin Pilot SX tires on my BMW. And I usually put on a couple of coats. I apply it with Eagle One tire swipes; I spray it on the swipes a couple of times for each tire, so that I can see the tire moist or damp (not dripping wet). After I do each tire, I'll go work on something else for 15 minutes or so, and then apply another coat. I don't wipe it off, buff it off, or touch it at all after I apply it. I've never had a problem with it "slinging" off onto my wheels, my car, or my driveway. It does get on my gloves though when I'm applying it.

Not sure if this makes a difference, but I usually don't drive my car around after I wash it. I just drive it into my garage, where it sits overnight. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it not slinging off.

Sorry that it hasn't worked as well for other people.

-- Ed [/b]</blockquote>
Ed thanks for your input, FYI I tried the same method Eagle One Tire Swipes and all, same result for me. It had less slinging but when it came time to wash I still had a hard time cleaning tires and wheels. Maybe I will try buffing out with a porter cable LOL :D
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by YoSteve.Com [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I personally don't like BO, i'm sure most don't.

I've never tried black opal though :D [/b]</blockquote>
ROFLMAO,

Yosteve now thats funny. I guess you can say that would be starting a rumor. :D
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Brad B. [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Don't trash EF Black Opal!

It may not work for "you" for tires and here's why: A lot depends upon your application method. BO is meant to be rubbed in and wiped or buffed off. (most dressings are) <snip>
[/b]</blockquote>I visited Lowe's for the first time Friday hoping to find something to wipe off excess tire treatment gel. I purchased something called "Rags in a Box". Cost was four dollars and some change for 85 - 11" x 10.4" "towels". They come in a box that dispenses the things like Kleenex and I was impressed after my first use. They are quite heavy and they didn't shred at all or lint excessivly as I repeatedly went over the sipes and letters on four newish tires. At a nickle apiece, pretty nice product, IMO.

Alan
 
The only way I was able to prevent any slinging was by discontinuing the practice of spraying the dressing directly on the tire. There are just too many little places on tires where dressing can accumulate and no amount of wiping will get to it. Slinging onto my car stopped when I applied the dressing on my tire-swipes and coated my tires little-by-little. Tiresome, but it works.
 
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I just ran across these new pads on the web and thought I'd suggest them to you guys at CMA.

They are microfiber polishing pads which fit most any type of machine. The cool thing is they have wear indicators built into them. The indicators are metal spikes that let the user know when its time to replace them before they possibly damage the paint finish. The mfr guarantees the pads will not create swirl marks. Seems believable to me.

I think its a great idea and CMA should at least look into them. Here is where I found them: http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=42

This company has all sorts of great automotive stuff, like blinker fluid, wiper blade sharpeners, and muffler bearings.
 
I LOVE Kalecoauto and buy most of my stuff from them (sorry CMA)! I tried these new pads and it resulted in what looked like a new paint job (oh wait, it WAS a new paint job). Amazing pads!!!
 
The metal spikes do a GREAT job and preventing the use of a worn pad which can cause swirl marks. We have our lawyers looking into this exciting technology, although I am disappointed that Meguiar's or Lake Country doesn't offer this first.

'Hi-Gloss Medieval Cutting Pads" in Torture Red foam would be killer. Literally.
 
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