why people still using rotary?

I have been using the rotary for about 10 years, and have 3 other PCs and a Cyclo. For me I could not even dream of detailing without a rotary. I use the PC only on the most soft clear coated flat black finishes (final polish).



That being said, I believe some of the new polishes and compounds that have been developed over the past few years by Menzerna, Meguiars, and 3M have enabled the non-professional to acheive professional quality results with the dual action polisher, but the results take much longer with this machine.



Detail long enough with a rotary, and you will never want to be without it. I consider myself pretty open minded with regards to new tools and techniques, and I now own 2 Eurosteam vapor machines, and would not even dream of detailing an interior without it.
 
I am upgrading to a rotary and i do not do that for a living .

with all that vibration with the DA i would rather master a rotary .

As all the pros said to you keep it .
 
IMO there is no way to perform professional level detailing/correction without a rotary. However, these days, I do often find myself polishing with my Flex DA. But, as previously mentioned, the vibration can be painful and a tad exhausting.



Andy
 
Got Wax said:
IMO there is no way to perform professional level detailing/correction without a rotary. However, these days, I do often find myself polishing with my Flex DA.
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Are you saying that you're not putting out "professional level" work then?
 
What I am saying - I can't believe how often people make the effort to turn any little posting into something contentious!! - is that sometimes I grab my 3401 because, depending of the car/paint, that's all that is necessary. But, again IMO, there is no way to turn out professional level work without having a rotary or two in the arsenal. I have a 9227 and a 3403.







Andy
David Fermani said:
Are you saying that you're not putting out "professional level" work then?
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In my experience, I learned on a PC first because I heard so many horror stories about a rotary, and then got a Makita a few months later (I've only been detailing for 6 months). I tried the KBM method with the PC, and it's just too rough for me, crazy vibrations, takes a good while, very trying on the hands and arms (and sometimes the teeth!).



I do all my correction with my Makita and I'm still learning, but I really like it. I also use my PC, for Klasse AIO, etc. so i think both are needed.
 
Danbo56 said:
.... I was 17 y/o at the time. Young and dumb.... I did everything fast! .. Sheeze.... it's 30 yrs later and I still remember That screw up!!
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Heh heh, thirty-some years ago I too was a young guy wielding a rotary :D
 
I have 2 rotary, Flex, and a PC. Each tool works better for certain things and I would not want to be without either of them.



Pick the right tool for the job. ;)
 
I use a regular variable speed Vector brand buffer with foam pads, depending on how bad the car is would depend on the amount of steps used, then for the coat of wax I use a Dewalt Orbital, it tends to remove any excess swirl marks that may be there left over that the normal buffer didnt remove.
 
I have both, but I use a rotary for about 95% of my jobs. The rotary finishes much clearer than a random orbital. I also use a cyclo, but that thing only comes out when I have a car with really sticky paint. I also have a DeWalt that I don't use, and would trade it to you for your DeWalt.





John
 
You can't do a professional looking job without a rotary in most cases. If I saw someone trying to detail my car with a PC the detail would stop right there.
 
Jakerooni said:
If you actually learned how to use your machine properly you probably wouldn't be saying that.
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:werd:



With the new non-diminishing abrasive polishes Meguiars has (#105 and #205) and 3M's Ultrafine Machine Polish (#06068) there is no reason that with proper technique you can't achieve a swirl free finish. My DA buffer (G110) definitely has its place when doing basic (minor correction) details but when I have a car that needs serious polishing, I reach for my Dewalt first.
 
Accumulator said:


Last I heard, Mike Phillips was still finishing out via the G-whatever DA machine that Meguiar's sells. And he's been using/training with the rotary for decades! It'll be interesting to see what he uses once he jumps ship and joins AutoGeek.
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#205 seems to finish down hologram free on harder paints (although I'd really need to see the car a few months later to be positive) but other than that, Meguiars really doesn't have anything to compare with 3M's Ultrafina. Not quite sure how it would have gone over with his bosses at Meguiars if he was using a 3M product-at least prior to 3M buying out Meguiars.
 
If im short on time I will use my Flex DA for correction even though I prefer the feel and fluidity of the makita but I ALWAYS finish down via rotary
 
dan46n2 said:
You can't do a professional looking job without a rotary in most cases. If I saw someone trying to detail my car with a PC the detail would stop right there.
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Huh?



I would much rather get my car detailed by someone who knows how to use a pc and may not "look professional" than get it hacked up by some idiot who may "look professional" but doesn't have a clue what he's doing.



There's a difference between looking professional and doing a professional job.



I understand everyone elses argument about finishing down/too much vibration/jeweling, but that argument made no sense to me. Just had to add that in.
 
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