Why Not in the Sun???

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kayel17

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Hello All,

There is somehting I have always wondered. There are several products produced that caution against being used in the sun.

WHY???

I've been told that using some products in the sun can cause staining. Is it because the surface of the vehicles is hot and causes some sort of reaction with the product? So is it the paint or the product?

How is it that Poorboys stuff can be used in the sun?

Not looking for any trade secrets just wondering how some products are sun friendly and some are not.

All levels of answers are welcome and encouraged. I'm looking for layman to technical. If any of you know of where I might go on the WWW, that would be kewl too!

As always, TIA!!!
 
The problem that I have had with using products in the sun that weren't intended to be was removal or the inability to do so. The product tends to dry out way too much to get off therefore putting back the same marring that you just removed.

I have read that Steve will have to kill you if he tells you why his products can be used in the sun so unless you're willing.....
 
SpoiledMan said:
The problem that I have had with using products in the sun that weren't intended to be was removal or the inability to do so. The product tends to dry out way too much to get off therefore putting back the same marring that you just removed.

I have read that Steve will have to kill you if he tells you why his products can be used in the sun so unless you're willing.....
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LOL All I know is that the polishes and EX work great in the sun! I had to do a black Sunfire outside directly in the hot sun one day last year and it came out awesome with no problems at all. Here is the car http://www.danase.com/gallery/album07
 
Wow, such detail, I can go start my own Poorboys knock-off company now with that knowledge <---insert sarcasm
 
wifehatescar said:
Wow, such detail, I can go start my own Poorboys knock-off company now with that knowledge <---insert sarcasm
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Steve was much more detailed than I would have been.
I was gonna say it was the stuff he puts in it. :)

Charles
 
Thanks for all the replies. Here is what I gathered thus far;

Most products, compounds, polishes, waxes are cautioned against using in the sun b/c they wil dry out and you would probably need sandpaper grade atomic bomb to remove the product.

Which leads me to a question, when working with PBs, (I will be getting my first shipment today purchased from the local distributor, didn't know I could still get the 10% discount, SSR3 down to PP) do you folks who have used PPs stuff, work in sections?

E.g. Do you work one section at a time with all the products?

So, SSR2 then wipe off, SSR1, wipe off, polish, wipe off, wax, wipe off?

I tend to work my compunding steps this way but like to polish the entire vehicle then wipe off w/MF. Same with the wax step.

What do you folks do/reccommend?
 
I have done both. I sometimes polish the whole car and then go back and wipe off or do a panel at a time. It makes no difference when working with the SSR's as far as I can tell.
 
It would really depend on how hot it is..if the finish is scorching, I'd say wait until it's a bit cooler ...if you have no choice..ie it's your living...then do sections at a time ....:)
 
I should of added when I do the whole car first then come back it is in my insulated garage so it does not get that hot in there.
 
You can always use a waffle weave to cover the next section you are doing so it doesn't heat up too much while you are working on the current section.
 
pop-up tents are good sometimes too...that way it also allows the sun to show you where the finish may still need some work.
 
Poorboy said:
It would really depend on how hot it is..if the finish is scorching, I'd say wait until it's a bit cooler ...if you have no choice..ie it's your living...then do sections at a time ....:)
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If it's really hot and I must buff or polish, I use a synthetic wool pad. My general rule of thumb is if I can put my hand flat on the hood for three seconds, I'm good to go. If its too hot, I'll use the synthetic pad. I highly prefer foam pads over anything else but they create alot of heat. Wool pads create even more heat. Synthetic pads, I think nylon is the material, work nicely in the sun because they create very little heat. I don't change my processes other than that and have had good results using all of my normal products, including the ones that say not to use in the sun.
 
I have found that the temperature affects the products more than the sun. I've used products when it was sunny and in the mid 40's. I experienced no problems.
 
rabbi said:
I have found that the temperature affects the products more than the sun. I've used products when it was sunny and in the mid 40's. I experienced no problems.
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Yep, it's the surface temp of the paint that causes the problem. Not the actual sun light. Should say, "Do not apply to HOT paint" not "do not use in the sun"
 
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