drew.haynes
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I have both of these, and maybe I'm just doing something wrong, but I don't see a visual benefit to either of them! What am I missing? Too many people like these products for them to be pointless.
*WHY* do you like RMG or Klasse AIO?
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VroomVroom
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How are you using them? Two different products there, so I'd think the expectations would be different as well. I rarely use my RMG, but I love it - it's great for making the finish look wet and to fill in remaining imperfections prior to waxing. I use all-in-one products even less, but they're great for a one-step paint cleansing and protecting process.
Envious Eric
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RMG - really adds to the depth and wetness of the paint...provided that you prepped the paint before...using it on neglected paint is not going to produce anything spectacular
drew.haynes
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I haven't used AIO for removing oxidation or for an LSP, I'm talking purely visual. I see people using AIO as a base after polishing, prior to other durable waxes and sealants. Why? Do people think it looks better? Why put it under sealants that already last a long time.
RMG - I've only tried it on a few cars, a flakey silver, a flakey blueish-grey, and a flakey black. Basicly worked it for a min or so with a black finishing pad then wiped off. Can't see any difference.
RMG - I've only tried it on a few cars, a flakey silver, a flakey blueish-grey, and a flakey black. Basicly worked it for a min or so with a black finishing pad then wiped off. Can't see any difference.
03COBRA
I miss my 03 Cobra......
drew.haynes said:
You use AIO under "durable" sealants so they bond properly to the paint. If you use a high oil product like Meguiar's, and try to top with a sealant such as Zaino, Zaino won't bond to the paint properly. AIO as a base gives a nice, clean surface with an acrylic content that "durable" sealants can bond to. AIO I don't think is meant to add anything to the finish. It cleans the paint and gets it ready to be sealed...
drew.haynes
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So negligible difference between AIO pre-LSP and a solvent wipedown?
baseballlover1
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i just bought RMG. Im going to watch this thread.
superstring
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drew.haynes said:
Yeah, more or less. But, on a less than perfect surface, RMG should add something, because it's a glaze/cleaner, ie it fills fine imperfections. However this will be probably only noticable on dark colours, unless the prep on light colours is really not up to scratch
drew.haynes
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Yeah, I just don't see still how either are worth the time or money, assuming the paint has been corrected to autopian standards - maybe for the average joe who does nothing in the way of swirl removal.
I kept seeing people raving about how deep and wet RMG makes their paint look, but their paint was almost 100% swirl free to begin with. When someone compounds, polishes, RMGs, and puts on an LSP, I don't understand how they think the RMG is making their paint look better - seems like it's by far negligible in light of all else they did in their process.
I kept seeing people raving about how deep and wet RMG makes their paint look, but their paint was almost 100% swirl free to begin with. When someone compounds, polishes, RMGs, and puts on an LSP, I don't understand how they think the RMG is making their paint look better - seems like it's by far negligible in light of all else they did in their process.
drew.haynes said:
You can't compare apples and oranges - it's like comparing a car wash to a full detail - you can't!
However, one step products do have a place. All vehicles need a really good cleaning before LSP application, but not all need multi-level polishing. If the surface is in good shape, a product like KAIO that contains both a chemical cleaner and an acrylic sealant may be just the thing to restore luster and provide a sound layer of protection...and as sealants go, the acrylic in Klasse is a pretty good one.
As to topping KAIO, I've used KSG, which when done right with maybe two layers to ensure good coverage looks really great on darker colors - I didn't think it looked as good on my frost white ride (but really light colors are tough to pop).
As far as other toppers, who knows - a perfect shine might be had with many products on top of KAIO, while having a very durable, acrylic base. As with any LSP, the pop really comes from the prep - which means a squeaky clean surface.
03COBRA
I miss my 03 Cobra......
drew.haynes said:
Like I tried to explain the above post of mine, it all comes down to what is important to you in your details. A lot of people like the look of RMG on certain paints. As far as KAIO most people use it strictly as a paint cleaner. Especially if the paint has not been cleaned or polished in a very long time. There are certain things that a polish can't remove from that a paint cleaner can. Kinda like claying the paint, it's all about getting the paint as clean and polished as possible right? In the end it all comes down to personal preference.
IMO, I think you're searching for an answer that you may never fully grasp. I say that because if you don't see a difference then you will never fully understand why people use it. I personally never noticed a difference when I used Souveran, but people swear by it. So I know it must be good, just doesn't work for my eye.
Here is what I mean about a regular polish. This is a picture that MIXXER took of his pad after polishing with AIO. The paint had been fully polished using 106FF as a finishing polish. He then went over it with AIO and got this...
SVTPerformance - View Single Post - example of why a paint cleaner is important
blk45
It's all in the prep!
drew.haynes said:
On dark colors, especially non-metallic black, RMG makes a very noticeable improvement. It is supposed to have the ability to fill, I wouldn't know as I don't use it for that. However, RMG will make the paint look darker and wetter. Some people like that and others don't. That is for you to decide.