Why do you guys think I am using so much ONPWW?

Nothing wrong with using more.... You are just being extra gentle

on your paint. Perhaps the extra towels account for the extra ONR?

I wouldn't call it anal. I would say cautious.



Scotts words on this post just rang true with me. Gary Dean Method takes

more time, and the traditional methods is much quicker. I also just purchased

a dirt guard which seems highly superior to a Grit guard.


I might change my method back to normal ONR in order to speed things up.
 
I used to use a Cobra Bone with the 2BM with grit guard.  I found that switching to the GD method cut my time by about a third.
 
I did my first ONR wash in the garage last night on a pretty filthy car.  I played it safe and used 13 towels on just the paint.  I used 8 clean surfaces of each towel so 104 towel surfaces! :o


 


With weekly or bi-weekly washing, I think I could easily get that down to 7 or 8 towels plus a couple for the wheels.  I really don't see how one could do a GDWM with 5 or fewer towels...to a ONR newbie it seems like too much dirt would get picked up and slid around on the paint.  Perhaps it could be done on a car that is washed 2x/week, but on a daily driver that's washed every few weeks...I'm not so sure. 


 


I plan to fiddle with the GDWM a while and see how it goes, but something tells me a one bucket method with more solution (2+ gallons vs ~1 gallon) may be just as good and faster.  Washing all the soiled towels takes time whereas a good mitt can be washed out by hand before/after use and release all the bad stuff. 


 


I'm thinking if one wanted to be extra cautious, using one mitt on the front half, setting it aside, and using a fresh mitt on the back half may be a good option. 
 
Scott is our resident ONR traditionalist. He claims that he had never had a problem with dirty in wash media after Rinse. Forgive me if I misquote.



Personally, I use many less towels than 5 a car. I do this because I optimize the use of each towel side. I constantly reposition my hands into clean parts, so that my hands us airways pushing virgin total into paint. After a small section, I move my hand. I flip the towel after using up most clean spots on the "eighth" that is facing out.


I average about 1.5 towels per car.


I must also point out that I do not let the towel get dry. I respay the clean spots with ONR when my towel loses lube.
 
That is a lot of towels. I use 12-16x16 towels total.

1 of them is drying

1 is damp for initial drying

Other 10 are for the wash. But i only use 4 of the 8 "sides" per towel because mine are the type that have short nap on one side and long on the other. I only use the long side for washing. So technically i could use 5 of a different type of towel. But I likely wouldn't use less than that.
 
WWWW-WillyWallyWashWax said:
Scott is our resident ONR traditionalist. He claims that he had never had a problem with dirty in wash media after Rinse. Forgive me if I misquote.



Personally, I use many less towels than 5 a car. I do this because I optimize the use of each towel side. I constantly reposition my hands into clean parts, so that my hands us airways pushing virgin total into paint. After a small section, I move my hand. I flip the towel after using up most clean spots on the "eighth" that is facing out.


I average about 1.5 towels per car.


I must also point out that I do not let the towel get dry. I respay the clean spots with ONR when my towel loses lube.
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Can I ask why you use 1.5 towels instead of just tossing the towel and grabbing and new one for each panel?  I can easily fit about 10 of the Sams towels in a gallon of solution.  The only benefit I can think of is not having to wash as many towels. 
 
dfoxengr said:
That is a lot of towels. I use 12-16x16 towels total.

1 of them is drying

1 is damp for initial drying

Other 10 are for the wash. But i only use 4 of the 8 "sides" per towel because mine are the type that have short nap on one side and long on the other. I only use the long side for washing. So technically i could use 5 of a different type of towel. But I likely wouldn't use less than that.
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I tried to get 90% of the dirt off with the 4 long nap sides and then did a few very gentle final swipes with the virgin short nap sides. 
 
<span style="font-family:'times new roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:12pt;">One of the reasons I think I use so many towels is that I flip to a clean side of the towel after one pass on the panel. I don’t want to have to look at that side of the towel and worry if it is clean enough for another pass. Currently using the Sam’s towels which have a tall nap on one side and a short nap on the other, that gives me four sides of the towel with the tall nap to use.


<span style="font-family:'times new roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:12pt;">kajunman
 
I use less towels because of the amount of cars that I do in a day. 13 towels is alot when multipled by 50 to 100 cars. I also get more life out of the towels by doing the top 2/3 of the sides of the car first, then doing the bottom third where it is dirty.


If you only put pressure on the clean part of mf, you can extend the life, because it is generally only the front part bring swiped with the towel that gets dirty. The 1.5 was just counting washing towels, not buffing or drying.
 
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