Which polish as 1 step?

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I am very limited on time & I want to clean up my black 1983 Volkswagen. The paint is in very good shape with only a few swirls & spider webs. I will be using a DA Flex. I will probably use white pads bc the Flex took off some paint on the edges of the hood last summer.



Wihch of the following would be BEST for a one step polish:



1. Megs 83

2. 1Z Paint Polish

3. Menzerna FPII

4. Megs 205



I will immediately follow up with Collinite 915.





Thanks

Frank
 
I have stopped using a AIO for a one step...its either m80, optimum compound, or FPII depending on what I am trying to accomplish! Everything gets topped with 845!
 
toyotaguy said:
menzerna to add the most gloss, megs to add gloss and do a little defect removal (very minor)



for me FPII>205
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I have to agree that Menzerna adds more gloss thn Megs. I used Menzerna IP & FPII last year on a white car and this year I used Megs 105 & 205 instead.



The pics from the Menzerna look quite a bit better.



Regarding my black VW, I will probably do a test spot with each product & see which one works best.



I never use a one step but my car was in the shop all summer & i am a teacher. I do most of my major detail work during the summer. - Only have time for a 1 step polish + wax for now.
 
I have heard that Menzerna PO 203 is a good 1 step polish which got little cut under SIP and finish nicely almost as the 106.
 
I think maybe some of it depends on the car itself, but I had good results with the 1z Paint Polish on my wife's black Civic. Cleared up light swirls on most of the car and also finished out some haze left by M105 where it was used. I also cleaned up a couple of shallow scratches on a friends yellow Dodge Ram with 1z PP, although that color doesn't show as much "gloss" as a black car.



Overall, I've been pleasantly surprised by 1z PP, especially considering it doesn't get much love on this forum anymore. Just wish it didn't smell like paint thinner. I also remember Accumulator saying that PP plays well with one of the Collinite waxes, but I can't remember which.
 
detail1- I'm assuning the VW in question has its original ss paint. So.. it'd be a trade off between doing correction and preserving the paint. I'd rather preserve the paint myself, so IMO if you can get away with just the FPII then sure, just use that.



Otherwise, if you need some real correction, I'd choose between M205 and the 1Z. On *this* car I'd probably lean towards the 1Z but I dunno for sure.



Working via Flex, for a one-step I'd be using an orange *GRIOT'S* pad with either product. No regular (LC) orange, that's for sure.



And yeah, the Collinites I've used (476S and 845) work fine on either M205 or 1Z, no IPA wipes needed (unless you run into oil issues with the M205, be sure to inspect under the right lighting if this is a concern).
 
Accumulator said:
detail1- I'm assuning the VW in question has its original ss paint. So.. it'd be a trade off between doing correction and preserving the paint. I'd rather preserve the paint myself, so IMO if you can get away with just the FPII then sure, just use that.



Otherwise, if you need some real correction, I'd choose between M205 and the 1Z. On *this* car I'd probably lean towards the 1Z but I dunno for sure.



Working via Flex, for a one-step I'd be using an orange *GRIOT'S* pad with either product. No regular (LC) orange, that's for sure.



And yeah, the Collinites I've used (476S and 845) work fine on either M205 or 1Z, no IPA wipes needed (unless you run into oil issues with the M205, be sure to inspect under the right lighting if this is a concern).
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Yes, the VW Rabbit has 26 year old original single stage black paint. It's in great shape except for the top of the passenger fender that is peeling.



Last year, I used the Flex w/Menzerna IP & FPII. It was an amazing transformation. I have to be very careful around the edges of the hood bc the Flex was powerful that it removed the paint from the edges.



The car has been only hand washed in the winter time. It is a daily driver that is not garaged. Paint is in good shape w/some spider webs.



Going to go light to preserve the paint. I will take your advice and test out a tiny spot by hand with FPII first & then 1z if necessary as these 2 products are the least abrasive. I am also going to try Poli-Seal. I will post some before and afters soon.



Thanks
 
detail1 said:
..Going to go light to preserve the paint. I will take your advice and test out a tiny spot by hand with FPII first & then 1z if necessary as these 2 products are the least abrasive. I am also going to try Poli-Seal...
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Note that the FPII will probably leave a better gloss than the 1Z even though it won't correct as much. I dunno how the Poli-Seal will factor in :think:
 
Well, pretty soon it will be time for a new paint job! I will try for 2 more years!

By hand i tried FPII, 1z, M205, Megs #9, & Poli-Seal on different spots of the hood. Go out a spot light & FPII & 1z looked the best.



I narrowed it down to Menzerna FPII & 1z. I then put a strip of tape down the hood, used a Griots orange pad with the Flex- did half FPII & the other half 1z.



The FPII worked & looked great.

1z worked good but it took off ALOT of paint esp. around the edges of the hood. No more 1z for the VW. Tomorrow I will finish the car w FPII & call it a day.



Did some paint meter readings and they ranged from 4.2 to about 2.2



Need to be very vigilant if I want to save this paint for a few more years.



Whats the going rate to strip, prep and paint a small car like a VW Rabbit?



Thanks

Frank
 
Menzerna, fp or po106 or even IP if it isn't a black car. FP is great buy doesn't get much webbing out but IP does and still finishes nicely. Forget about 83, you need to finish that.
 
I took a 2nd look this morning & I realized that the paint is in pretty good shape. Its only the hood that shows more wear. Besides the edges, there are a few spots - 1 on the hood & 1 on the sunroof where the paint is faded- its difficult to describe- looks like tiny beige circles in the black paint- Im staying away from those spots & polishing by hand in tight spots. The paint is cleaning up really nice with FPII.



This is going to take longer than I thought! I was planning on finishing today but I will be keeping her in the garage all week & work on it each day after work.



I hate skimping on things. The upper door panels look nice & black- that deep showroom, swirl free, black thats almost impossible to achieve!



After taping all the trim for 20 minutes on one side of the car only, I realized that this project needs time & patience! I also need to clean the glass, do a complete interior cleaning, vacuum, dress the trim etc. Time & patience!!!! I will post some pics after.
 
detail1- Glad the FPII is sufficient.



I wouldn't worry too much about the worn spots, high-quality ss like yours can survive cut-throughs like that surprisingly well as long as you keep everything LSPed. Note that the primer might soak up polish/wax a bit more than the regular paint will.



I'd check out those beige spots with magnification and see what's going on there.
 
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