What's your take on Natty's?

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ShootsHeScores!

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My take is...

I don't like the fact that you have to start all over once it's been applied. In order to add more EX or EX-P the Natty's has to come off with a polish (unless you just let it go and it wears off). I feel that by using EX or EX-P as a final product you can always add another coat a few weeks later. Does anyone use sealant, apply natty's, and then continue upkeep w/natty's a few weeks later? Natty's had better bring a sick :hurl shine for the extra work.


What's your take on Natty's?
 
Whenever you use a topper, its always gonna be last step. You can of course layer sealants, but there is a limit (YES THERE IS A LIMIT! :lmfao )

Natty's is great, as with EX. I would just plan out what you want to do. You can always strip everything then reapply :-p
 
I think if you applied EX or EX-P with a pc over natty's then it would work. the slight amount of heat generated is enough to remove the nattys. Thats why when layering EX or EX-P Steve recommends doing it by hand so you do not remove the previous layer. My 2c's

Eric
 
Wax is always my finally product, then week later top it....Before I put my Wax the paint will look good..
Meanign I won;t have to strip anything for 4 to 6 months.....which i would normally anyway
jeff
 
What you are saying is probably true of any carnauba based wax, not just Natty's.
The general consensus of opinion seems to be to not put a sealant over a wax because of possible bonding issues.
You could do just as you said and use Natty's periodically to maintain the look, then do as Jeff said and start over.

It was for just that reason that I discontinued using S100 over UPP. I felt I would rather be able to add more UPP whenever I had the urge, rather than have to strip the S100 to add more UPP. While I have been happy doing that, I do think a good carnauba such as Natty's or S100 would be an option that should work good.

The whole thing is a matter of choice. Some like sealants, some swear by waxes. If it works for you, that's what really matters.

Someone has a quote something like, "Find something you like and use it often". My sentiments, exactly.

Charles
 
roadman said:
Does the same hold thru with pwc, it contains carnauba
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Good question. I don't think I would use it planning to put Zaino or UPP over it. It is very likely that it would work with some of the Poorboy's sealants, but I don't know that for sure.
Right now I am using PwC with Meg's NXT Tech Wax over it and everything seems to be working together quite well. Looks good, feels slick, easy combination to use.
Durability is something that I am not much help with since my idea of going a long time without adding some thing would be 4 to 6 weeks. Back in the early days of UPP, I once went something like 7 or 8 weeks as a test and I could hardly stand it.
Right now, I would have to say that Klasse AIO with 4 Star UPP over it would still be my favorite combination.
As I have said many times, there sure are a lot of good products out there. I just don't have the money or the patience to try them all.

Charles
 
I've already treated my father's silver Navigator with the following products in this order:

SSR2
PwC
3 layers EX-P
(Truck looks awesome)

What would the effect of Natty's be on lighter colors as a topper?
 
Okay here's my 2¢

IMHO-
You can apply EX over anything, even waxes.

Second, Natty's has a property of cleaning itself in wet weather. In other words dirty water don't stick so much

Next, Carnuba sticks to a car well over a month. The problem is the oils in the waxes are lost to heat and washing (unless you use S&W!). QD's are oil replenishers for wax so use them! QD+ also has fresh carnuba in it so now you can clean, replenish oils, and rewax in one easy step! :doh

Lastly, why top it? Well when I did the Ferrari, the shine was maxed out after the PWC and EX (see EX bonds to carnuba!) but out of curiosity I applied the Natty's to a 6" x 6" corner on the hood. I didn't see drastic color, gloss, or depth change.... but it was OOOOH so slick and smooth. Of course I finished the car with it!
 
I understand that the carnuba, in Natty's paste wax, would add depth and wet-look to a darker colored car, but what about a lighter colored car?
 
I used Natty's for the first time today. Let me start by saying that I almost always apply a carnuba topper to a customers car. As said previously, it adds that extra little bit of pop and leaves the finish just silky smooth. I feel that it's worth the extra 40-45 minutes. Now for my take on nattys wax. I have always previously used p21s as a topper, and I found Natty's to be equally easy to use (in fact easier). It's easier to use because there are no limitations on drying time. P21S is a wipe on wipe off product. If you let it set up to long it becomes more difficult to remove. Not so with Natty's. I tried buffing it off when it dried completely, and when it was still a bit moist, and it just came off like butter in both cases. Love it. It does have a bit of a different look. I applied it to a BMW titanium silver metallic clearcoat on top of Klasse AIO and it was a bit more "clear" than P21S, but still very deep and warm. I can't wait to try it on black paint. I think this is a great product and it has earned a permanent spot in my inventory. Bonus....it's cheaper than P21S. Just my opinion.
 
My personal preference through the winter months is to apply a straight sealant, couple coats, then top with EX. Any chance through the winter I get to wash and add a layer of anything, I put on another coat of EX.

In the warmer months and through the summer, I'll top with a coat of wax, ok, at least a couple coats of wax over a couple coats of sealant. Since it's easy to apply another layer of wax often through the warmer months, I'm happy knowing that beneath the wax is sealant and I like the added look of the wax. And again, in warmer months, it's always easy to strip it all off and start over if I like.
 
ShootsHeScores! said:
My take is...

I don't like the fact that you have to start all over once it's been applied. In order to add more EX or EX-P the Natty's has to come off with a polish (unless you just let it go and it wears off). I feel that by using EX or EX-P as a final product you can always add another coat a few weeks later. Does anyone use sealant, apply natty's, and then continue upkeep w/natty's a few weeks later? Natty's had better bring a sick :hurl shine for the extra work.


What's your take on Natty's?
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I really love Natty's as a topper over "anything"! I believe most people use carnauba toppers over sealants for the same reason I do............ as much as they like the durability, clarity, and reflectiveness of sealants................... there's something special about the the look of a great carnauba.

Now, here's what I like about Natty's................ most carnauba's will "overwhelm" the products underneath after a couple of coats. Natty's on the other hand is nearly as clear and reflective as most sealants. Therefore, the Natty's seems to retain the good properties of the sealant underneath, while adding that "richness" of a fine carnauba.

In the end, if you like the look of the EX, or EX-P........... stick with it. If you're in the mood for a bit different look............ try the Natty's. If you decide to go back, you won't need to polish......... a good washing, and a light coat or two of the EX will remove the Natty's.

However, that's just my 2 cents.
 
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