whats more aggressive than 1ZUP?

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Panda_TSX

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looking for a little more cut than 1ZUP + LC Yellow.



sisters black car has alot of deeper scratches on the hood and stuff that i wasn't able to get out. Is there anything a little stronger for PC use?
 
I've had pretty good luck with Poorboy's SSR2.5. Right now I'm using Menzerna PG a lot, but that only comes in big bottles, and its not the most PC friendly product that money can buy.



If you can feel them with your fingernail though, your only bet is gonna be to reduce them. You might want to consider a little dupli-color, followed up by 2000 grit and then 3000 grit sandpaper. Finish up with SSR2.5, and you should be good to go.
 
If you're not using 4" pads, that's the first thing I'd change. They definitely work much more aggressively than the larger ones.



I myself wouldn't go any stronger than 1Z UP/4" cutting with a PC, but you could try the Hi-Temp line from TOL
 
For polishes or compounds, this list was offered a while back:







COMPOUNDS, POLISHES AND GLAZES SORTED BY CUTTING ABILITY



Disclaimer:

Cutting action can differ significantly based on application (e.g. hand use vs. rotary). This list is an approximate indication of the cutting ability of polishes based on the circumstance they are most likely to be used under. Products are ranked by scratch removal ability, not filling or "cleaning/oxidation removal" ability. Consider the error to be plus or minus one ranking. This list is propagated by a rogue group of Autopians and should not be seen as general consensus of the community as a whole. Comments are welcome for additions or corrections to the list.



10 – MOST AGGRESSIVE - COMPOUNDS

3M SUPER DUTY RUBBING COMPOND HEAVY CUT 39004

MEGUIAR’S BODY SHOP PROFESSIONAL DIAMOND CUT COMPOUND 2.0 VERY HEAVY CUT #85



8

EINSZETT Extra, Intensiv Paste

MEGUIAR’S BODY SHOP PROFESSIONAL COMPUND POWER CLEANER HEAVY CUT #84

3M PERFECT-IT III EXTRA CUT RUBBING COMPOUND 05936

MEGUAIR’S MIRROR GLAZE HEAVY CUT CLEANER #4



7

3M IMPERIAL MICRO FINISHING COMPOUND MEDIUM CUT 39001

MEGUIAR’S MIRROR GLAZE MEDIUM-CUT CLEANER #1

POORBOY'S SSR3

1Z Ultra



6 (Any higher, and you should probably bust out the rotary or sandpaper)

3M PERFECT-IT II RUBBING COMPOUND FINE CUT 39002

MEGUIAR’S BODY SHOP PROFESSIONAL DUAL ACTION CLEANER POLISH MEDIUM CUT #83

MEGUIAR’S MIRROR GLAZE FINE-CUT CLEANER #2 (rotary only)

3M PERFECT-IT III RUBBING COMPOUND 05933

POORBOY'S SSR 2.5



5 (Removes scratches you can't quite feel)

3M FINESSE-IT II MACHINE POLISH 39003

3M FINESSE-IT II FINISHING MATERIAL 05928 (same as above)

3M ONE STEP CLEANER WAX, MEDIUM OXIDATION REMOVER 39066

1Z PP

MENZERNA INTENSIVE POLISH

POORBOY'S SSR2



4 - POLISHES

3M PERFECT-IT III MACHINE GLAZE 05937

MEGUIER’S QUICK DETAILER #66

MEGUIER’S SPEED GLAZE #80

MEGUIAR’S SCRATCH-X #108

Hi-temp Light Cut



3

3M PERFECT-IT SWIRL MARK REMOVER DARK CARS 39009 (f)

3M PERFECT-IT SWIRL MARK REMOVER LIGHT CARS 39109 (f)

MEGUIAR’S BODY SCRUB A10

MEGUIAR’S BODY SHOP PROFESSIONAL SWIRL FREE POLISH LIGHT CUT #82

MEGUIAR’S MIRROR GLAZE SWIRL REMOVER #9 (f)

POORBOY'S SSR1

1Z MP

ClearKote Moosewax

MENZERNA FINAL POLISH



2 - GLAZE/POLISH (takes out the smallest scratches)

3M PERFECT-IT III TRIZACT MACHINE GLAZE 05930

3M IMPERIAL MACHINE GLAZE 05991

3M ONE STEP CLEANER WAX, LIGHT OXIDATION REMOVER 39006

KLASSE ALL-IN-ONE (c)

MEGUIAR’S MEDALLION PAINT CLEANER #97 (c)

MEGUIAR’S DEEP CRYSTAL PAINT CLEANER #30

EINSZETT Metallic, Express, WaxFinish



1 (No cutting action, filling only)

MEGUIAR’S BODY SHOP PROFESSIONAL HAND POLISH #81

MEGUIAR’S MIRROR GLAZE MACHINE GLAZE #3

MEGUIAR’S MIRROR GLAZE SHOW CAR GLAZE #7

3M PERFECT-IT III FINISHING GLAZE 05941

3M IMPERIAL HAND GLAZE 39007

BLACK FIRE DEEP GLOSS POLISH



Additional notes:

(c) chemical cleaner, removes oxidation

(f) lots of fillers, so it actually doesn't remove as many scratches as it appears
 
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