Whats a better wax Zymol Carbon or HD Poxy

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ppastos

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I have a 1993 Infiniti Q45 and this car is a detailer nightmare because the paint is not at its best. And I say that because I am a perfectionist when it comes to this car and this car alone. The paint on this car was the best for its time (lasts 10 years without wax when new).



I have a friend who likes nothing but Zymol and he has tried almost every wax out there. I have researched a lot and I do see that Zymol is a very good product to say the least. I have tried Meguiars NXT 2.0 and its worth every penny but I need something that sheets water like crazy and is as deep as the Grand Canyon.



I see that you guys love the HD Poxy because it seems to be the cure for everything because its a hybrid wax. I would like to try it out but I want to see what you guys think before I buy it, I live off this sites reviews.



So I need a cheap wax (Less than $60), that sheets water (No water beading), Is deep like the Grand Canyon and lasts for more than a month.



I can provide pictures if needed, Thanks for a great site.
 
I'm sorry but whoever told you that a paint doesn't need to be waxed for 10 years, was probably trying to sell you a bridge somewhere too. Depth doesn't come from the wax alone, you need proper polishing, claying, and washing to go with that wax. I'd start reading this site and go from there.
 
I managed to find the brochures on the car and I have been reading them. God help you if anyone replies with that quote from the begging of "The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift". But in the brochure it said that and I doubt they would lie about it because the car is in great shape for its age but its not Ferrari.



I already did wash, clay and then applied the NXT on but I need better.



Anyone else please?
 
I have used both and POXY looks very good but it will bead. It has carnauba in it. Carbon is a fine wax as well. Look wise POXY, but you may want a pure sealant for sheeting.
 
So Poxy seems like a winner I may have to try then.



So when I detail the car again this Summer (I live in New England) I should: Wash, Clay, Polish, Wax and apply sealant?



I know sealant lasts about a week well maybe a little more but if it does all the stuff I want then its worth it. :)



Thanks for the help.
 
ppastos said:
So Poxy seems like a winner I may have to try then.



So when I detail the car again this Summer (I live in New England) I should: Wash, Clay, Polish, Wax and apply sealant?



I know sealant lasts about a week well maybe a little more but if it does all the stuff I want then its worth it. :)



Thanks for the help.
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Where do you get that sealants last about a week?



wash

clay

polish

sealant (first)

wax (top the sealant)



This should give you several months, but wax often. You can't have too much protection.
 
I heard of people putting sealant on last, They were the ones that said it lasts a couple of weeks at most. I was being sarcastic but I have to forget I am talking across the internet.



But I read some reviews on the sealants like 3M, Zaino and some others and everyone says the "Water Beads" on there cars and doesn't sheet.



Like I said I want something that sheets water. I saw a video of a guy drying his ca with water and I got jealous. Plus it would be fun driving on the highway when raining out once in a while and seeing the water just fly off the paint. My windows do that with Rain-X but I want to match that with the paint too.
 
Some sealants can last 6 months. Some waxes like Collinite are also extremely durable. However...Apply sealant before wax. Let the sealant bond to the paint by allowing it to set on the paint for 6-12 hours. Then apply Wax. Its almost like a double protection, and i'm sure you'll get incredible depth from your paint after all this.

Good luck.
 
I might try Optimum Opti-Seal because I am open to idea's and its not 3K dollars. But I think I have found the perfect combonation:



Collinite 476S for durability and water sheeting (From what I heard this is more of a sealant).



And Zymol Carbon for nice smell and great shine (And because its a true wax).



I heard that Collinite produces "holograms" when layered is that true?



Thanks everyone so far you have been great.
 
ppastos said:
I might try Optimum Opti-Seal because I am open to idea's and its not 3K dollars. But I think I have found the perfect combonation:



Collinite 476S for durability and water sheeting (From what I heard this is more of a sealant).



And Zymol Carbon for nice smell and great shine (And because its a true wax).



I heard that Collinite produces "holograms" when layered is that true?



Thanks everyone so far you have been great.
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Not True!



What that means to me is that the product wasn't wiped off properly.
 
Well Collinite seems hands down the best wax (or is it a paint sealer?) for water sheeting/durability hands down. But if its not too much I would like the car to smell great between washes and look awesome. But I hear people sat Zymol and others smell great, But how long does that smell last?



I have narrowed it down to these products because after seeing Zymol Carbon in pictures I am not satisfied:



ClearKote Vanilla Moose

P21S Concours Carnauba Wax (original)

Meguiars M26 Hi-Tech Yellow Wax (liquid)

S100 Motorcycle Carnauba Paste Wax



Like I said I want durability, great smell, gloss/depth and water sheeting. I want to achive this depth/gloss:

878s100_reflections_suburban.jpg
 
Just so you know, I can take Turtle Wax and make it look like that.

In almost every side by side test, the difference between LSP's is practically impossible to tell (looks).



Dont ever grade a product by its smell. Zymol cleaner wax smells like a fruit

but Meguiars #16 smells like crayons. That doesnt mean the Zymol is better.



None of those products you have settled on probably give the best durability or sheeting.



Its sounds like you need a sealant, such as OS or UPGP. Or maybe some Gtechniq Nanowax.
 
I don't grade products by there smell but I just go by what I hear from my friends who love clean cars. But I look for something that smells great for some time, now thats not going to necessarily decide if I use the wax but it is a plus.



Collinite will take car of durability and water sheeting, But from what I have seen and heard its not shiny. Now I hav'nt tried it out but I plan to, And it sounds like if the prep work done right then the car will look better...Yes?
 
Yes. And Collinite will look just great. Its just not a beauty wax. But then again, if somebody

packaged it up all fancy and charged $100 for it, then maybe we would think it was.
 
Right but I am looking for the best of both worlds for less than 3K dollars. Just kidding I want something less than $50 for two waxes.



Looks like I will have to try out some Collinite and see what happens.



Thanks for all your help!!
 
ppastos said:
Well Collinite seems hands down the best wax (or is it a paint sealer?) for water sheeting/durability hands down. But if its not too much I would like the car to smell great between washes and look awesome. But I hear people sat Zymol and others smell great, But how long does that smell last?



I have narrowed it down to these products because after seeing Zymol Carbon in pictures I am not satisfied:



ClearKote Vanilla Moose

P21S Concours Carnauba Wax (original)

Meguiars M26 Hi-Tech Yellow Wax (liquid)

S100 Motorcycle Carnauba Paste Wax



Like I said I want durability, great smell, gloss/depth and water sheeting. I want to achive this depth/gloss:

878s100_reflections_suburban.jpg
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Well if your looking for durability S100 and P21S are not where you should be looking at. Try finding sealants, like UPP and OS which give ease of use, durability, looks and sheeting. You shouldnt care about how they smell...
 
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