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imported_Ronin

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I was driving west on the Dulles Toll Rd (a staight shot highway to Dulles Airport here in Wash DC metro area) 2 days ago and what did I see...



A nice dark blue Lexus LS 400, with a family of three inside. The WHOLE exterior of the car (hood, trunk, fenders, doors, quarterpanels ect.) had been hit with a PC by some fool. It was unbelieveable. Someone on auotpia posted a picture of a blue Bimmer whose hood had been ravaged by someone with a PC. Well that is what this entire car looked like and the marks were even worse and almost everywhere. Yikes! :eek:
 
To put the kind of marring you are referring to takes an idiot with a high speed rotary and an old 4 ply wool yarn cutting pad!



The dummy probably used a glaze type product and that made it look good for a week or so, but the yarn striking the clear at 3000 RPM cut right into the clear.



They do it everyday, to thousands of vehicles, everyday and call themselves "professional detailers".



"I been doing this for years and I know what I am doing, no one ever complains, all my customers are happy with my work."



And then why has he moved locations every year and has no large quanity of repeat customers?



I laugh my ass off at these kinds, but unfortunately they are all around and give true professional detailers a bad name.



Ketch

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Yeah, I would second that it would be almost impossibleto put those kind of marks on a car with the PC (which is an orbital instead of a rotary)a nd wouldnt want to scare people awy from buying it. Also, most people out there who use a rotary dont know how to use it. People just say its the the machine gets great results and they use it without training to do something simple like apply a wax. Like Ron said, there are many true profesional detailers who can use a rotary and when used right, the results are phenomnal.
 
Ron is right, it would have been with a rotary not a PC. Only people with tons of experience should use a rotary. A rotary buffer in the wrong hands can basically destroy the entire finish on your car. If you ever have your car detailed by a "professional", be very very careful about who you choose, and never ever let the dealer touch it.
 
the "professional" that wounded my car covered up his mess with silicone spray, so that I wouldn't notice it when I picked the car up. Walking around inside his garage, i almost fell on my butt because the floor was so slick with the stuff. I didn't know then what I know now. :eek:



after a summer's worth of work I've got most of the damage repaired, but the perfectionist in me still sees some areas that need some work yet.



I know the porter cable oribital everyone talks about is probably a good product, but if you have a new car, I don't see the need for it if you use zaino. anything that moves in a circular motion is no longer allowed to touch my car, orbital or not!
 
debaser, (is that you last name?, answer the post ;)) did you get anything from that dealer (at least your money back?) just curious.
 
There I was, at the Eureka Springs, AK vette rally this weekend. Beautiful weather and around 800 vettes there.



I walked up to a red ZR1 vette because it had terrible swirls from a rotary buffer. I was commenting to my buddy something along the lines of "Wow - that looks really bad!" The owner says "Thanks, it has 560 HP!" I didn't say anything about his paint, and took a picture of his motor. Let's put it this way - all this guy cared about was performance, not looks. There were plenty of examples of cars like this there. But there were also many that covered every base. Amazing to me.



Here is his ZR1 engine.
 
I have thought about getting a PC...it would make detailing my Tahoe a thousand times easier......however, just hearing stories like these gets me scared.... I'm one of those types, that if it is possible to screw up your paint with a PC, I'll find a way to do it. I've actually had the money set aside for awhile..... :(
 
it was a complicated situation. i live in a small town, the guy is known about town, and i have to park near his business quite often. i hate confrontation, and i didn't want to start anything with him so i just sucked it up and considered it a lesson learned. oh well.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Ron Ketcham [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>To put the kind of marring you are referring to takes an idiot with a high speed rotary and an old 4 ply wool yarn cutting pad!

The dummy probably used a glaze type product and that made it look good for a week or so, but the yarn striking the clear at 3000 RPM cut right into the clear.

They do it everyday, to thousands of vehicles, everyday and call themselves "professional detailers".

"I been doing this for years and I know what I am doing, no one ever complains, all my customers are happy with my work."

And then why has he moved locations every year and has no large quanity of repeat customers?

I laugh my ass off at these kinds, but unfortunately they are all around and give true professional detailers a bad name.

Ketch
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Honestly, this is the main reason I come to forums like this. I want to learn as much as possible before opening up a business. Personally, I have the same philosophy as Ron because I like to do it right or don't do it at all!
 
A PC can not do that to the paint, except if you use the backing plate to buff the car.



A rotary buffer in unskilled hands can destroy a car as Ron states.





I love my PC to death. So easy to use and master.



Jason
 
IM planing this for 2010


I don't know whats more important, I'm only a hobbyist. so if it was you, whats toys would you get for yourself?


  • CR-spotless
  • Camspray electric pressure washer
  • highline paint meter
  • vx5000 steamer
  • carpet extactor
  • Flex light-weight rotary
but heres what I have now...... all in all worth over $2000


Polishers & Pads

Makita Hi-Speed Rotary Buffer.
Porter cable 7424xp.
3M double side edge 6 in foam pads & adaptors.
Detailers Domain Uber 4 in & 5.5 in flat pads, 3 in Uber spot BP
Lake Country 8.5in CCS foam pads, 5.5in foam wool pads. 4 in LC BP, 5 in LC BP, 7 in LC BP
Makita 8.5 in wool pads




Compound & Polishes

Meg 105&205 Meg 83
Optimum poli-seal, finishing polish
3M ultrafina
4 star compound, polish, glaze
HD UNO
Optimum Metal Polish




　
Lighting

Brinkman light
Husky 1200w halogen light




Mirofiber Towels

All-purpose towels
Special plush towels
Baby soft towels
Waffle weave towels
Glass towels




Wax & sealant

Optimum Opti-Sealant
Danase Sealant
4 Star Sealant
HD proxy
Collinite 845 wax, 915 carnauba wax
Meg 16 wax
Wheel max wax
Pinnacle Signature Series II Carnauba e Wax
　
　
　
Wash Chemicals & Tools

Mircofiber mitts
Synthetic wash mitts
Lake Country big blue spronge
Uber yellow sprong
EZ detail brush
Swissvax wheel, interior, and tire brushes
Uber Boar?s Hair brush
Autogeek brushes
Horse Hair interior brush
Carpet Brush
Mother gold class
Chemicals Guys Citrus Wash, Citrus wheel cleaner, and Grime reaper
P21s Autowash
Meg all-purpose+ cleaner
Folex carpet cleaner
Optimum No-rinse, Gloss echancer, spray wax
Detailer Pride No-rinse
Autogeek Foam-gun
2 bucket with grid guards
Foam applicators
Metro 4HP portable Vacuum & Blower
Stoner Invisible Glass Cleaner with Rain Repellent
Meg Final Inpection


Dressings

HD tire gel dressing
Optimum tire gel
303 Aero-protection
Armor-all
Chemical Guys barebone undercarriage
Black WOW


Leather Care
Meg all-purpose+
LeatherMaster TRIO
Danase Leather RX
Swissvax brush and horse hair brush

Clay bar

Meg fine grade
Meg med grade
Pinnacle fine grade

　:buffing::buffing:
 
Go for the steamer, defiantly a multi-tasker. Lots of uses around the house also, which helps selling the purchase to your significant other. :thumbup:
 
You say you are a hobbyist? THat is quite a list of products for a hobbyist:devil:

I mtoo am a hobbyist, and the one thing on your list that I wish I had is a pressure washer.

Good luck:Dancing Dot:
 
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