What makes them worth it?

good point troy, now about that skin care and hair stuff, just kidding. you do know i'm bustin them right? troy, troy.:lol2:
 
Well, let me put a different spin on it now. with Mike mentioning how some people are status driven.

Troy, as a professional detailer if you had a customer who was a picky @#$&@ and insisted that use use one of these high end waxes that he was willing to pay for, would you accommodate him? I'm sure that there are others that are out there that would be willing to pay premium just because their detailer used a $1200 wax.

"J"
 
jaybs02 said:
Well, let me put a different spin on it now. with Mike mentioning how some people are status driven.

Troy, as a professional detailer if you had a customer who was a picky @#$&@ and insisted that use use one of these high end waxes that he was willing to pay for, would you accommodate him? I'm sure that there are others that are out there that would be willing to pay premium just because their detailer used a $1200 wax.

"J"
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Good question and my answer is "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". If it's what they want, then that's what they get.

If your asking me if I want to become the next Paul then my answer is no, but I'm not going to say what he is doing is wrong or not worth it. If I did it would only be my opinion and we all know what that is worth.:D
 
There are some people that swear that Lemon Pledge is the only thing you should use on paint.

You do reach a point of diminishing returns. After a certain price point you don't get double the quality for double the money. You may get slightly better for double the money.
 
:D:D
black bart said:
Funny how this topic came up now.
Just the other day I stopped at a local body shop to visit with a good friend that works their.
This guy is a awesome painter :bigups

WE was talking about some of the new products and he told me about this guy who has to have the best of everything
He brought his car in too get a panel painted and he was telling him that he wanted it painted so it looked as good as it did and that he had a $1200.00 wax on it.

Chuck got a clean MF towel and put a dab of polish on the panel that was to be repaired and rubbed it some them buffed it off and he said you could see a round spot where he had put the polish on.

It was noticeably glossier and the owner exclaimed what the hell is that stuff.
Chuck said NXT you can buy it at Wal-Mart for less than 15 Bucks :rofl
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on a different note i used to collect high end flashlights.(surefire)brand flashlights that only swat team and militery use. they run from 100 bucks all the way up to 400 hundred for 1 flashlight. now do i did i really need these no. but i used to collect them ... people used to think i was nutts but i couldnt care less i liked them . so i have to stick up for mike( calgery detail )he loves carnuba as i. so its all good. its his hobby:D mine too.....

tom
 
trhland said:
on a different note i used to collect high end flashlights.(surefire)brand flashlights that only swat team and militery use. they run from 100 bucks all the way up to 400 hundred for 1 flashlight. now do i did i really need these no. but i used to collect them ... people used to think i was nutts but i couldnt care less i liked them . so i have to stick up for mike( calgery detail )he loves carnuba as i. so its all good. its his hobby:D mine too.....

tom
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thanks for the support tom :rockon... and i do collect waxs yes, i love them... some people collect stamps or coins (i used to collect stamps, have a large collection) i collect wax....

i would never buy a 400bucls flastlight, well mayb a sun gun, its just not my thing. however if its what tom likes then all the power to him...

some buy waxes for the look other for the status.. i know i buy them for the collection and the look.... its what i like...

and tom, you collection is starting to rival mine, mine has thinned out more then i car to admit....looks like there is competition of there..ohh well they can win. i cannot afford to compete :D
 
CalgaryDetail said:
thanks for the support tom :rockon... and i do collect waxs yes, i love them... some people collect stamps or coins (i used to collect stamps, have a large collection) i collect wax....

i would never buy a 400bucls flastlight, well mayb a sun gun, its just not my thing. however if its what tom likes then all the power to him...

some buy waxes for the look other for the status.. i know i buy them for the collection and the look.... its what i like...

and tom, you collection is starting to rival mine, mine has thinned out more then i car to admit....looks like there is competition of there..ohh well they can win. i cannot afford to compete :D
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its funny about a week ago i picked my friend up in my truck. and he was lik eyour truck looks awesome were do you buy your waxes and stuff? pepboys?:Di said no online . he was like how much is some wax i wan to buy the same kind. so i said 40 to 80 bucks a jar. and he freaked. he was like f that thats crazy. :D:D. so poeple freak over here about 40 bucks cant imagine what they would say if i bought pauls wax for a grand:D. but ask me if i care? nope not at all ...
 
trhland said:
on a different note i used to collect high end flashlights.(surefire)brand flashlights that only swat team and militery use. they run from 100 bucks all the way up to 400 hundred for 1 flashlight. now do i did i really need these no. but i used to collect them ... people used to think i was nutts but i couldnt care less i liked them . so i have to stick up for mike( calgery detail )he loves carnuba as i. so its all good. its his hobby:D mine too.....

tom
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Tom .. I think collecting something that is not perishable is in a different league. Eventually if you wanted you could sell the used flashlights, like you could sell a used collectible car or stamp ..etc..
and get most if not sometimes more than you paid for. I think I'm with vcallaway on that there is a point of diminishing returns with buying overly expensive disposable waxes. The shine mostly comes from the quality of the paint on high end cars as well as the polishing and prep. the LSP or wax in this case should only enhance not create the shine. :idea
 
Poorboy said:
Tom .. I think collecting something that is not perishable is in a different league. Eventually if you wanted you could sell the used flashlights, like you could sell a used collectible car or stamp ..etc..
and get most if not sometimes more than you paid for. I think I'm with vcallaway on that there is a point of diminishing returns with buying overly expensive disposable waxes. The shine mostly comes from the quality of the paint on high end cars as well as the polishing and prep. the LSP or wax in this case should only enhance not create the shine. :idea
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Well said Poorboy.:bigups

Does this mean all the Limited Edition Natty's Red I've been hoarding won't be worth anything 10 years from now?:(

That was my retirement investment.:D
 
Troy@DetailCity said:
Well said Poorboy.:bigups

Does this mean all the Limited Edition Natty's Red I've been hoarding won't be worth anything 10 years from now?:(

That was my retirement investment.:D
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:rofl ..don't hoard it ..sell it :D .. there will be more coming :notme: ... now if you have the Limited Edition Natty's Tin like a few people on DC have, then you could start thinking retirement :inspector:
 
When I do peoples cars with say Souveran, which is not in the price range of Zymol or Pauls wax...when they see it they say wow that looks great, what kind of wax is that and how much does it cost, when I tell them they get all excited and bring peope to see it...yet I don't think they would notice the difference if I told them it was a OTC brand...

I believe for the most part it is prep and process, while I do believe some waxes darken the paint for the most part, if the things you do prior to you LSP are done correctly anything you put on top will look similar...
 
This subject comes up every now and then but I only know of one poster on DC using a 1000 dollar wax
Mans number one responsibility is to provide security for his family.

Here is a list you should review before buying a 1000 dollar wax

Do you have a mortgage on your home.

Do you owe money on your car.

When you buy your next car will you need to finance part of it.

If something happens to you will your family be left without adequate money to maintain a decent standard living

Before you can retire does your 401K need to be bigger.

If you answer YES to any of the above then you would be a fool to buy a $1000 wax.
 
Poorboy said:
Tom .. I think collecting something that is not perishable is in a different league. Eventually if you wanted you could sell the used flashlights, like you could sell a used collectible car or stamp ..etc..
and get most if not sometimes more than you paid for. I think I'm with vcallaway on that there is a point of diminishing returns with buying overly expensive disposable waxes. The shine mostly comes from the quality of the paint on high end cars as well as the polishing and prep. the LSP or wax in this case should only enhance not create the shine. :idea
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i hear ya very true.....
 
black bart said:
This subject comes up every now and then but I only know of one poster on DC using a 1000 dollar wax
Mans number one responsibility is to provide security for his family.

Here is a list you should review before buying a 1000 dollar wax

Do you have a mortgage on your home.

Do you owe money on your car.

When you buy your next car will you need to finance part of it.

If something happens to you will your family be left without adequate money to maintain a decent standard living

Before you can retire does your 401K need to be bigger.

If you answer YES to any of the above then you would be a fool to buy a $1000 wax.
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but what if paul dalton includes a limited addition cetificate???:D:D
 
black bart said:
This subject comes up every now and then but I only know of one poster on DC using a 1000 dollar wax
Mans number one responsibility is to provide security for his family.

Here is a list you should review before buying a 1000 dollar wax

Do you have a mortgage on your home.

Do you owe money on your car.

When you buy your next car will you need to finance part of it.

If something happens to you will your family be left without adequate money to maintain a decent standard living

Before you can retire does your 401K need to be bigger.

If you answer YES to any of the above then you would be a fool to buy a $1000 wax.
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althought i agree... i do have some reservations about this statment. There are many expenseses that come first, esp family. I will never argue against that. :bigups
however even if you have a 401K that needs to be beefed up you prob still have an enterainment or play budget. If the money comes out of this section then iu see nothing wrong with it.

I dont see it diffrenlty then going out for dinners or drinks. The money could be saved yes, however sometimes its fune to splurge and go out for a ncie dinner or drink with a friend. its about finding the balance and what works for you.

I know i have a mortage. Car is paid for which is nice, but i stil ower a few grand on the house. I have it budgeted, i have my retierment budgeted (and it needs alot more but i have a few ywars to add to it:gotcha:) I also have an amout of play money, it a few months to save the money but it was my play budget.

so yes there are things that need to come first anbd always will there is also a time and place for these toys (and yes these are toys, no diffrent from any other hobby).
Also people buy snowmobiles, skis, car parts that are to needed, and other toys that are not needed and the money could be allocated else where... heck a car is not needed yet we still buy them. a little diffrent i know, however one could argue that the money should be spent on the house since the bus will get you where you are going.

So after this long text the point is that yes there are other places that the money can be spent that need to come first. however its also important to budget (and stick with it) to things you desire...
 
If anyone has it to spend, more power to them.
Mike:
I've seen some of the collections that some of those guys on detailing bliss have and you got some catching up to do :lol:

I think people have misunderstood what I was asking. I'm not really concerned with why people will buy them. It may be a collector, a coneseur (sp) or just some one with too much damn money :lol2: I was more curious on what drives the cost that high. but from reading some of the contents from swissvax & Zymol I may now understand. Now whether or not it actually produces a better shine or has better durability, thats a whole other story.

"J"
 
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