What makes a wax great?
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JM19 makes a very good point.
Is there anywhere to get a sample versions of waxes? Like a small shampoo bottle size good enough for maybe one and a half wax's? Most places like the 8 and 16 oz size, but this is annoying! I like to test products out, and see what I like for myself without being screwed out of 10-20 dollars for something I don't like...
Is there anywhere to get a sample versions of waxes? Like a small shampoo bottle size good enough for maybe one and a half wax's? Most places like the 8 and 16 oz size, but this is annoying! I like to test products out, and see what I like for myself without being screwed out of 10-20 dollars for something I don't like...
Hello Hyperion! You're from Bimmerforums.org, right? Welcome to Autopia...
As with the samples, check out YoSteve.com. He sells a sample kit of Klasse AIO (2 oz.), Klasse SG (2 oz.), a MF applicator, and a foam applicator for $15.85 including shipping: http://www.yosteveshop.homestead.com/klassekit.html
~bw
As with the samples, check out YoSteve.com. He sells a sample kit of Klasse AIO (2 oz.), Klasse SG (2 oz.), a MF applicator, and a foam applicator for $15.85 including shipping: http://www.yosteveshop.homestead.com/klassekit.html
~bw
Guilty as charged.
I am the one they call Hyperion.
Thank you for the heads up on the products that YoSteve sells. I am probably going to buy some samples just to try them out, even though I just commited and bought 16 oz of Klasse...
Do you know how long it took me to go though 8oz of Meguiars Gold Class....
<em class='bbc'>And it is bimmerforums.com, not .org.[/i]
I am the one they call Hyperion.
Thank you for the heads up on the products that YoSteve sells. I am probably going to buy some samples just to try them out, even though I just commited and bought 16 oz of Klasse...
Do you know how long it took me to go though 8oz of Meguiars Gold Class....
<em class='bbc'>And it is bimmerforums.com, not .org.[/i]
2wheelsx2
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How many coats of SG (on average) can one do with 2 oz? I am considering getting the sample kit, but am wondering if I would have enough to get the shine that I want.
....but I find that that's truly generous. I bought some 1 oz bottles to monitor my consumption (wanted to make sure I wasn't using waaaay too much) and did my helmet twice, my thermos 5 times, a BMW 328 twice and my Miata twice all on the same ounce, and <strong class='bbc'>still[/b] had about 0.20 oz left in the bottle.
Naturally, your mileage may vary, but I bet you could still do a big SUV twice with an ounce.
$0.02,
Robert
Naturally, your mileage may vary, but I bet you could still do a big SUV twice with an ounce.
$0.02,
Robert
Preachers Sheets
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I don't know if anyone has said it yet but this is what I think a good wax is all about:
shine
how easy to apply
how easy to remove
price
If the wax is priced around 25-40 bucks and goes on as easy as it comes off I would wax more car more than I Klasse it.
Waxing to me is inbetween washing and claying, it's easy, pretty fun and yeilds really nice results with minimal effort.
shine
how easy to apply
how easy to remove
price
If the wax is priced around 25-40 bucks and goes on as easy as it comes off I would wax more car more than I Klasse it.
Waxing to me is inbetween washing and claying, it's easy, pretty fun and yeilds really nice results with minimal effort.
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Hyperion [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I used to be on DTM... [/b]</blockquote>
Before you got banned...
j/k
Just FYI, there is also a member here called Hypersion, so I'll pay attention to that extra "s" of his.
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Hyperion [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I used to be on DTM... [/b]</blockquote>
Before you got banned...
j/kJust FYI, there is also a member here called Hypersion, so I'll pay attention to that extra "s" of his.
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by BW [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>
Before you got banned... j/k
Just FYI, there is also a member here called Hypersion, so I'll pay attention to that extra "s" of his. [/b]</blockquote>
Oh well that is going to be lovely... I will not even be able to tell the difference....
<em class='bbc'>And yes, I was banned from DTM.[/i]
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by BW [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>
Before you got banned...
j/kJust FYI, there is also a member here called Hypersion, so I'll pay attention to that extra "s" of his. [/b]</blockquote>
Oh well that is going to be lovely... I will not even be able to tell the difference....
<em class='bbc'>And yes, I was banned from DTM.[/i]
AutoSparkle
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If Zaino uses a sealant, isn't that "bad" (i.e, doesn't paint have to "breathe"). Also, does Zaino's system protect against the lements as good as carnauba wax?
Generally, sealants are far superior to carnauba waxes...hands down. In regards to sealants not letting paint "breathe", that is generally a myth and one does not need to be concerned this as paints don't need to "breathe" to begin with. Judging on your location, number of hours your car spends outside, and so forth, it all will depend on whether you are better suited for a carnauba or a sealant.
AutoSparkle
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by JM19 [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Generally, sealants are far superior to carnauba waxes...hands down. In regards to sealants not letting paint "breathe", that is generally a myth and one does not need to be concerned this as paints don't need to "breathe" to begin with. Judging on your location, number of hours your car spends outside, and so forth, it all will depend on whether you are better suited for a carnauba or a sealant. [/b]</blockquote>
I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. Coastal area with a lot of rain and 2-3 months of snow and slush. Plus, I'm so keen on a monthly wax job. Say Zaino then? What about Klasse?
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by JM19 [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Generally, sealants are far superior to carnauba waxes...hands down. In regards to sealants not letting paint "breathe", that is generally a myth and one does not need to be concerned this as paints don't need to "breathe" to begin with. Judging on your location, number of hours your car spends outside, and so forth, it all will depend on whether you are better suited for a carnauba or a sealant. [/b]</blockquote>
I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. Coastal area with a lot of rain and 2-3 months of snow and slush. Plus, I'm so keen on a monthly wax job. Say Zaino then? What about Klasse?
AutoSparkle
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by thejean [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>
I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. Coastal area with a lot of rain and 2-3 months of snow and slush. Plus, I'm so not keen on a monthly wax job. Say Zaino then? What about Klasse? [/b]</blockquote><span class='bbc_underline'>not
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by thejean [/i]
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I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. Coastal area with a lot of rain and 2-3 months of snow and slush. Plus, I'm so not keen on a monthly wax job. Say Zaino then? What about Klasse? [/b]</blockquote><span class='bbc_underline'>not
DETAILKING
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will protect better and longer than carnuba. Carnuba offers no real UV protection.
As far as paint breathing, well here is some info....
".......Late model paint technology doesn't breathe, that's an
old myth.. once it cures that's it..... The older lacquers and enamels
needed time for the solvents to evaporate and release, that is where the
term "paint breathes" comes from. Wax would seal the paint and prevent
the solvents from
releasing. This led to a whole bunch of paint related problems. That's
why paint manufacturers still tell you not to apply WAX for thirty days.
Because WAX does not let the paint breathe.. and actually suffocates
it. All urethane paints, however, and late technology paints use a catalyst for
hardening and
curing. The paint is fully cured in about 36 to 72 hours. The base coat and clear coat are cured at about the same rate, and if it is not dry in about 72 hours it will never dry as it is covered in clearcoat.
As far as paint breathing, well here is some info....
".......Late model paint technology doesn't breathe, that's an
old myth.. once it cures that's it..... The older lacquers and enamels
needed time for the solvents to evaporate and release, that is where the
term "paint breathes" comes from. Wax would seal the paint and prevent
the solvents from
releasing. This led to a whole bunch of paint related problems. That's
why paint manufacturers still tell you not to apply WAX for thirty days.
Because WAX does not let the paint breathe.. and actually suffocates
it. All urethane paints, however, and late technology paints use a catalyst for
hardening and
curing. The paint is fully cured in about 36 to 72 hours. The base coat and clear coat are cured at about the same rate, and if it is not dry in about 72 hours it will never dry as it is covered in clearcoat.
imported_Intermezzo
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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by thejean [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>
I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. Coastal area with a lot of rain and 2-3 months of snow and slush. Plus, I'm <span class='bbc_underline'>not so keen on a monthly wax job. Say Zaino then? What about Klasse? [/b]</blockquote>
Zaino or Klasse are both excellent choices and will provide protection against the elements for a good six months.
Since I live in sunny Los Angeles, I don't have the snow and rain problem that you do and use Zaino on only one of my cars. The other car is 'protected' with carnauba. However, for a lot of people on this forum that live in the East Coast or live in areas where the winter climate makes re-applying a coat of carnauba every few months difficult, a polymer sealant like Klasse or Zaino is a much more practical choice and will last through the winter season.
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by thejean [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>
I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. Coastal area with a lot of rain and 2-3 months of snow and slush. Plus, I'm <span class='bbc_underline'>not so keen on a monthly wax job. Say Zaino then? What about Klasse? [/b]</blockquote>
Zaino or Klasse are both excellent choices and will provide protection against the elements for a good six months.
Since I live in sunny Los Angeles, I don't have the snow and rain problem that you do and use Zaino on only one of my cars. The other car is 'protected' with carnauba. However, for a lot of people on this forum that live in the East Coast or live in areas where the winter climate makes re-applying a coat of carnauba every few months difficult, a polymer sealant like Klasse or Zaino is a much more practical choice and will last through the winter season.
AutoSparkle
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Does anyone have any information on products such as "Diamond Coat" and "Permashine" type yearly treatments. There is one locally that uses a silicon based polish which is then sealed in with a "reactor". They guarantee it for one year. Has anyone else tried these? What do you think of them? Would I be better off with the Zaino product?