What is the purpose of glaze?

Finish Kare's 303 is an absolutely stable glaze, and I haven't experienced reduced durability with any product over it (#21, Mothers Reflections, FK Pink, Collinite 845, etc.).
 
Perhaps it is my lack of experience, but I'm having some serious doubts about this whole "bonding" thing and the "science" of durability. I put just about anything on top of anything.
 
I believe in the whole bonding thing, but I think that there are a wide range of glazes and they may not all have the same effect on the wax that goes over it.
 
So I plan on using a glaze. Prior to the glaze I will polish using Menzerna FPII, Followed by a glaze (not sure which one yet) then followed by my wax of choice PS21. My question is what glaze should I use in between Menzerna FPII and PS21?
 
cwcad said:
If one is not supposed to use a sealant after a glaze then Menzerna FTG, that i have used in the past for some of the vehicles that i have detailed , should essentially be the LSP for those details? Or is it because it is in the menzerna line that FMJ would work over a glaze as the LSP?

Could using FTG be the reason that I personally, have had durabilty issues with FMJ?
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I would like the experts to answer cwcad's question,and applying the glaze is like applying a wax correct?
 
TomG said:
So I plan on using a glaze. Prior to the glaze I will polish using Menzerna FPII, Followed by a glaze (not sure which one yet) then followed by my wax of choice PS21. My question is what glaze should I use in between Menzerna FPII and PS21?
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I to am falling into this rutine, but if vm isn't a glaze what is it? I am trying to figure out how to use a glaze and or sealant then my caranube on top. The vm I have heard so much about and thought it was a glaze .Would blackfire all finish paint protection be a good choice? I am getting confused on these middle steps that many may call over kill but what the heck if you got the time as I do why not do it all? Also the menzerna P0106FF is this product basically a final polish which is the same as blackfire what???? I am lost on what blackfire is calling it. :gathering
 
Bence said:
Well, the term glaze might be old-school but the products are alive and kickin'. A glaze will not only add to the overall appearance, but helps as well.

As we all know, there are paint finishes that are too old/delicate/thin/sensitive/damaged to use harsh leveling polishes on them. We should conserve this fine balance where paint removal could mean potential full paint system failure. Therefore, we should fill and protect the paint instead of removing from it unnecessarily. This can be vital and important when we try to save an all-original classic.

So, when we can not correct the surface by removing the necessary layer/amount, then a glaze is the only solution to produce an acceptable finish. Therefore glazes will always have their places in the detailing world; old-school term or not.

Nowadays, glazes are more durable than for example the "ancient" #7, which is a non-drying oil. The modern polymer glazes like Finish Kare 303 work both mechanically, but at the same time they fill and enhance gloss. VM too, is an excellent product for this purpose as Rabbi stated. Interestingly, I start to see and use NXT Paste as a glaze, because it has mild, fine cleaning power, excellent, reflective, glossy appearance and fills a bit as well. Then I top it with something really durable, like Collinite 845 or #21 and I have the best of both worlds.
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Agreed. VM rocks and so does red machine glaze and yellow moose wax
Combined they permanently remove marks and create a gloss and depth unmatched by any other glaze I have tried. Easy to use and when used with quikshine in between each one, you've got a killer finish

At work I use VM to remove paint scuffs, scratches and even swirls
Amazing what it removes by hand, great for acrylics too
 
Thought I would bring this back to life as we never heard from any of the sponsors about this topic.... regarding sealants over glazes,,,,,topping VM?
what are the facts about cross linking certain chemicals,and their bonding qualities?
 
rabbi said:
I put a glaze on before the sealant. I think it adds wetness to the appearance. It is also used to mask minor flaws. I love it and when I do a full detail I include a glaze.
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I also put a Glaze on but i use it prior to Wax application. Havent really used an sealants yet other than the 3X Carnubua one and i apply it over the Butter Wax. I will also at car shows give the truck a one over on the windows and paint after QD the whole truck to give it some extra POP!

So for me it would go assuming all these steps were needed
Wash
Clay
SSR
Revive Yes i know kind of redundant but it really gives a great shine
Brilliance Spray Glaze
Butter Wax

Richard
 
cwcad said:
If one is not supposed to use a sealant after a glaze then Menzerna FTG, that i have used in the past for some of the vehicles that i have detailed , should essentially be the LSP for those details? Or is it because it is in the menzerna line that FMJ would work over a glaze as the LSP?

Could using FTG be the reason that I personally, have had durabilty issues with FMJ?
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I would love an answer to this because I have the same question and will be using Menzerna in the upcoming week. But I'm assuming that Menzerna knows what they doing when they say to use FTG before FMJ.
 
i thought i kinda knew what *glaze* was b4 this thread, lol. one of those *i do but i dont things* :) i have been using glaze after compounding. and b4 p21s cleaner then wax. am i using too many steps that isnt needed?? i was under the impression the glaze brought back the shine after compounding to rid of any hazing and to better bring back the color and shine. but after saying that, isnt that almost what a polish and or paint cleaner do also?? i think i just confused myself on what a glaze/polish/paint cleaner even really is and where they fit in the whole detail process. what i do at my work and for my self on weekends for ppl are much diff as far as how many steps i take. i work at a dealership and they want the most done in shorter time, i have more time when i do something at my place personally.
 
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