What is the equal to AIO??

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Is AIO a swirl-fine scratch remover at all..
Is there a product I should use before AIO to get a better prepped surface???

Let's say I have the SSR line up
SSR 1- 2 -2.5 and 3
AIO is equivalent to which one of the SSR's????
Suppose I'm doing a swirl filled 1998 model car???
Where should I start??

If I'm doing hologrammed 2001 Porsche-where do I start??
 
AIO can not really be compared to the ssr line. AIO is more of a chemical cleaner than an abrasive one. If you are going to tackle a swirl filled car *I* would start with something like SSR2.5, then a lighter polish (may not be needed), then AIO, then the topper.
This combo will work for both of the situations that you are inquiring about.
 
What about the oft repeated statement referring to PB's PwC as "AIO on steroids"?

I recently bought the product based on that claim. I haven't used it (PwC) yet, but plan on using it on finishes that have a bit of micro-marring than AIO can tackle. Right or wrong thinking on my part?
 
Not familar with the PB product but AIO, as noted above, is typically a chemical cleaner, it's quite effective at removing oxidation, but not noted typically for removing marring, it can rarely can do much of that, at least in my experience. It also contains sealant, which makes it a great "base coat" for your final sealant, traditionally its "twin" High Gloss Sealant Glaze (SG)
 
PwC is AIO on steriods. AIO should not be a swirl remover, as I remember there are no abrasives. You could try ProPolish for abrasiveness and clear paint.
 
Polish With Carnauba contains carnauba wax. Is this friendly to placing another, pure sealant on top? Sounds like there will be a bonding issue. AIO and PWC seem like different animals, does the wax content contribute to PWC being "AIO on steroids" :huh
 
So then if AIO is a chemical cleaner wax- a prep for final sealant like UPP.
Then it is safe to say AIO is equivalent to the Four Star Ultimate Paint Cleanser.
Since FSUPC is used before UPP
A lot of guys here use AIO before UPP..
 
Back when I was first around a DC member NattyBumppo that the Natty's Wax is named after coined the term "AIO on Steroids".

The fact is that these two products are very different and shouldn't be spoken about in the same sentence.

Klasse AIO is a great cleaner with some protection. It eats oxidation alive!

An oxidized hood would laugh at PWC and say "Who do think you are?"

I think PWC should be described as what it is, a cleaner wax.

I wouldn't try putting a polymer on top if PWC. Polymers cannot bond to paint with carnauba present.

Don't get me wrong. I like using PWC but I'd like to see it described accurately and I do not think it is AIO on steroids.
 
Tarios said:
Then it is safe to say AIO is equivalent to the Four Star Ultimate Paint Cleanser.
Since FSUPC is used before UPP
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That sounds more like it, as long as no wax content ,just a cleaner-sealant type product.
 
Bill D said:
...AIO, as noted above, is typically a chemical cleaner, ...It also contains sealant, which makes it a great "base coat" for your final sealant, traditionally its "twin" High Gloss Sealant Glaze (SG)
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I got that. I use AIO as a "paint cleaner" and as a base coat for 4*UPP, NOT SG :)

The Woob said:
PwC is AIO on steriods. AIO should not be a swirl remover, as I remember there are no abrasives. You could try ProPolish for abrasiveness and clear paint.
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As noted above, I don't use AIO as a swirl remover. I have PB's PP, but was looking for something a bit easier to use, hence the PwC purchase. I assumed (always a dangerous act) that the "on steroids" comment implied some abrasiveness.

Bill D said:
Polish With Carnauba contains carnauba wax. Is this friendly to placing another, pure sealant on top? Sounds like there will be a bonding issue. AIO and PWC seem like different animals, does the wax content contribute to PWC being "AIO on steroids" :huh
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It seems to be a widely accepted practice to use PwC as a base for EX-P (a sealant) without issue. Another reason for my purchase of that combo.
 
Blinded said:
Back when I was first around a DC member NattyBumppo that the Natty's Wax is named after coined the term "AIO on Steroids".

The fact is that these two products are very different and shouldn't be spoken about in the same sentence.

Klasse AIO is a great cleaner with some protection. It eats oxidation alive!

An oxidized hood would laugh at PWC and say "Who do think you are?"

I think PWC should be described as what it is, a cleaner wax.

I wouldn't try putting a polymer on top if PWC. Polymers cannot bond to paint with carnauba present.

Don't get me wrong. I like using PWC but I'd like to see it described accurately and I do not think it is AIO on steroids.
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PwC can easily remove oxidation from a finish and the only real finishes that do oxidize are single stage ones. Clearcoats don't oxidize, they are usually marred with many fine scratches that simulate an oxidized look. PwC can remove a lot of that but not nearly as much as a swirl remover/ pure polish.
The wax part of PwC is actually very minimal which is why it doesn't seem to interfere with many sealants. It has a very unique polymer in it, one I can't divulge, and defintely is a very strong chemical cleaner. It was one of our first products that was intended to be the staple finish protectant of the Poorboy's World line, long before there was EX, EX-P, OR Natty's. Back then Autopian's asked for LSP that didn't clean, with higher gloss, thus came the previous mentioned products. I, as stated in another thread, prefer to use PwC for winter protection, as it is easy and lasts. It also can not build up and another application can quickly be done when time is short during the winter if desired. Yes it is also a great base for LSP too:)
 
and it smells like cake!!

I gave my mom a bottle dor X-mas - she just bought a new Impala, and called me when she got it home. After washing it - she did PWC and called me to tell me "wow" it looks better than when I picked it up.
 
groebuck said:
and it smells like cake!!

I gave my mom a bottle for X-mas - she just bought a new Impala, and called me when she got it home. After washing it - she did PWC and called me to tell me "wow" it looks better than when I picked it up.
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that's funny:lol ..the original intention of PwC was to be an extremely easy product for anybody to use ....I have dealt with many older show car owners over the years who literallly don't want to do much work anymore...one step is all they wanted and that's what PwC was meant to do:)

glad mom was happy:D
 
She was happier when the dealer remarked on the car when she went back for her plates. She said he was saying something about how their prep guys did a great job and she told them "no, I did that..." :lol she is 69 BTW
 
groebuck said:
She was happier when the dealer remarked on the car when she went back for her plates. She said he was saying something about how their prep guys did a great job and she told them "no, I did that..." :lol she is 69 BTW
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that's even funnier:lmfao :rolling

I can just imagine the guys face:eek :bigscream then he goes into the back after your mom leaves and gives the prep guy "THE Donald" "Your'e fired" :rofl

and then calls you mom to see if she wants a job:D
 
Poorboy said:
The wax part of PwC is actually very minimal which is why it doesn't seem to interfere with many sealants. It has a very unique polymer in it, one I can't divulge, and defintely is a very strong chemical cleaner.
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Steve, just out of curiosity, why have carnauba in it at all? It would probably be even more sealant friendly without it and would be an even better base coat for a lsp.

Also, I know you can't divulge the exact sealant thats in it, but is it the same one as EX-P?
 
TheSopranos16 said:
Steve, just out of curiosity, why have carnauba in it at all? It would probably be even more sealant friendly without it and would be an even better base coat for a lsp.

Also, I know you can't divulge the exact sealant thats in it, but is it the same one as EX-P?
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the carnauba adds a it more gloss for those using it as an AIO product, who knows, maybe we'll make some in the future without the wax, but as i stated earlier , our original intent was not to make other LSP's.
...and no it's totally different from EX-P and also has a patented UV absorber;)
 
The Woob said:
PwC is AIO on steriods. AIO should not be a swirl remover, as I remember there are no abrasives. You could try ProPolish for abrasiveness and clear paint.
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Pro Polish is non-abrasive. Says so right on the bottle. Any abrading would be from the application media (cutting pad, mf cloth, etc.)
 
I've had good results PwC topped with EX or EX-P. No bonding or durability issues in my experience -and the look is killer. I recenly used this combo on a neighbors black truck that sits out 24x7.

I've also had great luck using AIO & UPP. In fact, Dwayne offers a Detail City inspired kit at www.premiumautocare.com

It's called
"Detail City Favorite Kit #1"

This kit includes 1 16.9oz. Klasse All In One, 1 16oz. Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection, 1 16oz. Four Star Ultimate Gloss Enhancer, 4 16"x16" Inch Forrest Green Soft & Plush Microfiber Towels, 2 16"x24" Inch Super Soft Waffle Weave Towels, 2 Terry Applicators and 2 Foam Applicators.

Purchased seperately, this kit has a retail value of $88.55. You save $13.60!
On sale now for $74.95.

UPP also works well with the 4* Ultimate Paint clenser. I really like using UPP on the front end of my car/truck because it's VERY slick and help keep the bug juice down.

I really like all of these products: PwC, AIO, 4* (and many more!). One good thing about the PB and 4* products is that they are a GREAT value. AIO is on the $$$ side, but it's a one-of-a-kind "all-in-one" product that's worth having around. A little AIO goes a LONG way.

Good luck and have fun!
 
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