What is the difference in 3D and HD?
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Setec Astronomy
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At one time the HD line was the retail/enthusiast line, while 3D was the pro/bulk/dealer line.
LashingStanley
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HD products are targeted more directly to detailers.
Very similar to how Meguiar`s has the mirror glaze line and the detailer line.
Accumulator
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I simply hate this! I see zero reason to differentiate into two different product lines. Eh, guess it`s because I haven`t bothered to memorize which stuff is in which Dept.
I feel exactly the same way about the various Meguiar`s lineups. Silly silly silly, what?!?..."I want some *consumer* level carwash, not some shampoo made for a Pro"...yeah, right [/sarcasm]
There`s an implication that some of their stuff is better than others, maybe justified by price differences, but I guess I don`t think that way.
When I was a kid, my mother and her sister swore by Mirror Glaze stuff...if it`s right for a Pro it`s right for a woman who wants a well-detailed car. That`s how I learned about M07/M16/etc., their take was that only dummies bought consumer-level stuff for much of anything (house/car/whatever) when better products were available (they`d say "professionals know what stuff is good for the money"), and these were *NOT* Autopian-type people. This was back when Mirror Glaze stuff was only sold in Paint stores and Autobody Supply places too. Guess which 3D/HD line those ladies would look into...
I feel exactly the same way about the various Meguiar`s lineups. Silly silly silly, what?!?..."I want some *consumer* level carwash, not some shampoo made for a Pro"...yeah, right [/sarcasm]
There`s an implication that some of their stuff is better than others, maybe justified by price differences, but I guess I don`t think that way.
When I was a kid, my mother and her sister swore by Mirror Glaze stuff...if it`s right for a Pro it`s right for a woman who wants a well-detailed car. That`s how I learned about M07/M16/etc., their take was that only dummies bought consumer-level stuff for much of anything (house/car/whatever) when better products were available (they`d say "professionals know what stuff is good for the money"), and these were *NOT* Autopian-type people. This was back when Mirror Glaze stuff was only sold in Paint stores and Autobody Supply places too. Guess which 3D/HD line those ladies would look into...
Can it like the difference in their polishes that 3D is bodyshop safe and not HD? It`s the use of silicone that is different between them and maybe more stuff that can interfear in a bodyshop. But think it`s more with the other products in their lines.
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One way to tell is to look at a manufacturer`s Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS). Sometimes the two products lines (IE; Collinite 845 Insulator Wax for cars and 925 Fiberglass Wax for boats) are listed on the same sheet. One catch is "proprietary material or chemicals", which means just that: they are chemicals so as not to give away that manufacturer`s secret formulas or blends that are unique to its product characteristics and performance and lend itself to a market edge over its competition OR not having to divulge it is exact patented materials and process.
Another key phrase is "patent pending". This is a legal term that a patent MAY be in the works (it has NOT been legally filed and a patent search done, though) or it has actually been filed AND the patent search has been done, but not approved by US Patent Office. That term "Patent Pending" has been a misnomer to me for marketing. Kind of like "Lifetime Guarantee or Warranty"; the "lifetime` is only as long as the company stays in business AND it has sufficient funds to cover warranty claims. There is no law that requires a company to set aside an escrow account to cover such claims in the event of a product failure.
Another key phrase is "patent pending". This is a legal term that a patent MAY be in the works (it has NOT been legally filed and a patent search done, though) or it has actually been filed AND the patent search has been done, but not approved by US Patent Office. That term "Patent Pending" has been a misnomer to me for marketing. Kind of like "Lifetime Guarantee or Warranty"; the "lifetime` is only as long as the company stays in business AND it has sufficient funds to cover warranty claims. There is no law that requires a company to set aside an escrow account to cover such claims in the event of a product failure.
Nutbread
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I think there is some justification for having both a consumer and a pro line. Such as a consumer product trading away a little bit of effectiveness for ease of use. A good example of that would be Opti-coat vs. Gloss-coat,
the former is more durable and more difficult to apply and the latter is less durable but easier to apply. Also simply for marketing purposes. You need a consumer version in a fancy bottle to compete for retail shelf space.
Accumulator
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Nutbread- Eh, this might just be another topic where I`m, uhm...an opinion of one, but I just don`t see the need for the differentiation into Pro/Consumer; rather I`d just have one line with different products having different attributes. Heh heh, when I`m running the planet we can do it that way, and until then I`ll just have my opinion... which won`t get any traction 