What do you use for quick wax?

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jerry@robs

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There are some customers that like a quick wash and wax service. I was wondering if any of you use any specific product like Stoner's Speed Bead or something like that on your customer's car?



Basically, there are customers that have no intentions of going through the wash, clay, polish (or even cleaner wax) route... they just want a wax that's fast, pretty much like what those auto-carwashes offer...



Any ideas?



Speed Bead fits the need but is way too expensive to use...
 
Well, there's Meguiar's 3in1...



Or, just use a cleaner wax--not as durable, but makes car look good quickly, as well as doing some paint cleaning (i.e., Mother's, Turtle's Cleaner Wax)...



On the other hand, for those real "quickies", then that may not really be a detailer or the customer may have no clue to what detailing entails, so maybe you can get away with those Wash N Wax off-the-shelf products.



Locally, I think Meguiar's (Simex distributors) may have a Wash N Wax formulation, too.



...of course, for those "maintenance customers" who may have had their cars previously detailed by you, a good wash and QD ought to bring back the shine you gave them. Maybe you can schedule them monthly, and your customer service/customer relations call them every so often to remind them...



--Alf
 
Hi Alf...



I thought about that... I'm trying to avoid using products that requires wax-like application... Kinda like those old foam wax in a can thing that TW used to sell, etc would be ideal for those walk-ins...



I'll talk to Simex about their wash and wax things... Thanks...
 
A certain Autopian sent me a sample of his own "proprietary" formula of a quick wax which is basically a mixture of Prowax's Fast Track and P-35 Satin Creme. It still has to be sprayed onto an applicator for best results, but it's supposed to be an extremely fast process. I can't wait to try it out.
 
Honestly, either S100 or Moose Wax are so easy to apply and remove, I don't use any quick wax products. I do use Quikshine to freshen up cars that I wash, but like any other QD, it isn't going to last more than a few weeks.
 
Intermezzo said:
A certain Autopian sent me a sample of his own "proprietary" formula of a quick wax which is basically a mixture of Prowax's Fast Track and P-35 Satin Creme. It still has to be sprayed onto an applicator for best results, but it's supposed to be an extremely fast process. I can't wait to try it out.
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You have to apply it with an applicator and buff it off but it hazes over very quickly and you can buff a panel pretty much as soon as you finish applying it.



Can do stuff like F-150s in 10mins.
 
Scott: S100 would work but the cost is prohibitive for a wash and wax service in my case... :(



Intel/Intermezzo: Sounds good... what's it called?



Lawrence: Good idea... Now I gotta find the local EO distributor, our EO stocks in here are so outdated... hehe. WAYD would work great... especially if they have gallon containers...
 
theveed said:
Intel/Intermezzo: Sounds good... what's it called?
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It is a mix of Pro's Fast Trak and Pro's Stain Creme. I stick it in a spray bottle so I can spray it on the applicator. I can apply it by hand faster than I can apply a wax with my orbital.
 
theveed,



If I am doing a quick wash and wax I use Hi-Temps Poly Plate. I spray it on the car via a spray bottle. It goes on all the chrome, windows, doorjams and can also be used on plastics and certain moldings and trim. I also use it while the car is wet. Saves a great amount of time and allows me to get back to the big money makers.



Anthony
 
Intel486 said:
It is a mix of Pro's Fast Trak and Pro's Stain Creme. I stick it in a spray bottle so I can spray it on the applicator. I can apply it by hand faster than I can apply a wax with my orbital.
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That is a really good idea!
 
I use E1 Wax as you dry once in a while. I don't think it enhance the shine thatttttttt much, but it does leave the surface pretty slick.
 
theveed said:
Scott: S100 would work but the cost is prohibitive for a wash and wax service in my case... :(
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I guess you pay a lot more for it than I do then. 40-50 wax jobs from a $15 jar is pretty economical.
 
I guess you pay a lot more for it than I do then. 40-50 wax jobs from a $15 jar is pretty economical.
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You guys have to remember that S100 would probably cost us here about $20 to $25, landed cost (after shipping and maybe taxes).



Other things to consider (these are general figures)



1. Minimum hourly wage here is US$0.68 (68 cents per hour).



2. A friend of mine with an MBA degree working for a multi-national firm here in Manila has an annual wage of about $15,000. And this guy has an MBA.



3. Local 3-step detailers (mostly from the Meguiar's bandwagon) charge about $30 for a full three step (Meg Power cleaner using rotary, DACP with rotary, Meg 26) for a toyota corolla sized car. A Ford Expedition 3-step would be about $45. And to think that about 3-4 people (with their 68 cents/hour wage) work on your car for about 4 to 5 hours....



4. El-cheapo car washes (guys with power washers) are about $1, and $2 for the higher end places. I don't trust these guys with my car, but that's the competition theveed will have to face. In other words, he has a huge task of EDUCATING the public first on correct washing and detailing....



5. A "wash n wax" service offered by professional detailers here (not the hand applied wax) is about $4 to $6. Using S100 and Scottwax reknowned thriftiness on the product, material cost would still be $.50, plus wash, plus water, plus labor... theveed would have to charge about $10 (yes, for US based people that is still ridiculously low), and would price himself out of the competition.



6. Car to person ratio here in the Philippines is much lower than the ratio in the U.S. Then, factor in that only few people like really clean cars, and fewer still recognize the need of professional detailing, and you see the market is small.



Ah, living in a developing country... :)



--Alf
 
A "wash n wax" service offered by professional detailers here (not the hand applied wax) is about $4 to $6. Using S100 and Scottwax reknowned thriftiness on the product, material cost would still be $.50, plus wash, plus water, plus labor... theveed would have to charge about $10 (yes, for US based people that is still ridiculously low), and would price himself out of the competition.



This kinda sums up my dilemma... S100 + shipping to Manila will not make business sense to serve to "wash and wax" customers, no matter how fast you can wax.
 
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