What do you think of Ford taking over companys?

Has Ford changed these companys...

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thevolvoguy

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Ford now owns 9 companys...



Ford

Mercury

Lincoln

Volvo

Jaguar

Aston-Martin

Mazda

Land Rover

1/4 of BMW



Many of these companys are comming out with new designs. I know Volvo, Aston, and Jaguar are already having some design flaws and ive seen bad reviews lately. What do yall think?
 
thevolvoguy said:
1/4 of BMW
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What?! Really... where did you find that? The only connection I could think was when BMW bought Rover in 1994 and sold it off to Ford. That explains why the BMW 4.4L V8 is in a 2003 Range Rover.



Does anyone know if BMW "owns" MINI, or just designs and creates them? I know that they will own Rolls-Royce (currently owned by VW.)
 
when did Ford take over Mazda?





I think BMW owns Mini, bought the company a long time ago from what I remember.
 
I got the 1/4 of BMW thing from somewhere... I sware! lol I think when the bought out Land Rover, and since BMW was having affairs with Land Rover... maybe they got a portion of the company(BMW)? :confused:
 
medic~ ford has had Mazda for a while now, I think they got started with them when the "Navajo" came out to replicate the explorer. Now they have the Tribute (Escape), and a few more cars that are basically fords. Check out www.ford.com for more info.
 
Would you part with over $100,000 for an Astin V-12, which is really just two Taurus V-6s stuck together? NOT! I know that Jag, Lincoln, and Ford are sharing a platform (for the Thunderbird). Hey, wouldn't it be cool if Jaguar introduced a pickup? "Introducing the all new Jaguar F-150." Now that's something I might buy. However, if Ford really owns a part of BMW now, I will have to reconsider that M3 purchase.
 
Ford has nothing to do with BMW.:D :) :p Unless you want to count the engine in the new Range Rover.:up Some how the Rover Group, which included MG, Land Rover, Rover and the MINI, damn near drained BMW of $$$$$$$$$$. They sold Land Rover to Ford, gave Rover with MG away(literally) and kept the MINI.





Ford first bought 25% of Mazda in 1979

Ford bought Aston-Martin in 1987

Ford bought Jaguar in 1990

Ford bought Volvo cars in 1999

Ford bought Land Rover in 2000



The Ford Escape is made in a Mazda factory. I think in the Flat Rock, MI plant.
 
Oooooooooooooh, okay. Thanks Hellrot!



What about rebranded cars like the Nissan Quest and Mercury Villager? I know Ford (Mercury) has some interest or connection with Nissan, but how? Does that mean they own Nissan a certain percentage... or just share?



Thanks!
 
HellrotCi said:
Ford has nothing to do with BMW.:D :) :p Unless you want to count the engine in the new Range Rover.:up Some how the Rover Group, which included MG, Land Rover, Rover and the MINI, damn near drained BMW of $$$$$$$$$$. They sold Land Rover to Ford, gave Rover with MG away(literally) and kept the MINI.





Ford first bought 25% of Mazda in 1979

Ford bought Aston-Martin in 1987

Ford bought Jaguar in 1990

Ford bought Volvo cars in 1999

Ford bought Land Rover in 2000



The Ford Escape is made in a Mazda factory. I think in the Flat Rock, MI plant.
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The Ford Escape and Mazda Tribute are made at Ford's Kansas City Assembly Plant. The powertrains, save for the 4 wheel drive transfer case which is a Mazda product, are pure Ford. The 2.0 Litre Zetec I-4 is from the Ford Focus (a pure Ford design), with the 3.0 Litre Duratec V-6 and the automatic transmission is from the Ford Taurus and Mercury Sable. Aside from the 4 wheel drive transfer case, the only thing Mazda contributed to this was the floor pan (passenger compartment only at that) from the 626.



Speaking of the Taurus/Sable, the front suspension is from the discontinued police version of the Taurus and Sable sedans, and the rear suspension was derived from the Taurus/Sable station wagons. The lighting in the two SUV's are made by Visteon (a former Ford subsidiary), as is most of the electronics and electrical system.



And in case anyone wants to know how I know this, it's because A) the contractor the does most of the prototype building for Ford used to be a customer of mine, B) three Ford engineers live in my subdivision, C) I'm a stockholder who is interested enough to find out something about what these idiots are doing with my money (LOL), and D) my brother is a manager at Ford.
 
The Ford Escape and Mazda Tribute are made at Ford's Kansas City Assembly Plant.
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I stand corrected.:D



What about rebranded cars like the Nissan Quest and Mercury Villager? I know Ford (Mercury) has some interest or connection with Nissan, but how? Does that mean they own Nissan a certain percentage... or just share?
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The last I read on this is Nissan and Mercury have ended this relationship and production ended in June. The Ohio plant where these two van were made will switch to beef up production of the Escape and it looks like a similar cute-ute will be built for Mercury.
 
HellrotCi said:


I stand corrected.:D



The last I read on this is Nissan and Mercury have ended this relationship and production ended in June. The Ohio plant where these two van were made will switch to beef up production of the Escape and it looks like a similar cute-ute will be built for Mercury.
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You read correctly. Mercury will get a version of the next gen Windstar (which, IMHO, should have been the case all along), and the Villager name will not be used.
 
I think I heard somewhere ford owns part of KIA. I am not sure tho because KIA is owned by Hyundai. Anybody know if ford owns part of KIA?
 
HellrotCi said:
I think they at least had a manufacturing relationship because I believe my '88 Festiva was a Kia, which became K.I.A.:D
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You're correct in that it was a "manufacturing relationship", and I don't think Ford has any financial stake in Kia, although I'm far from positive about that.
 
I guesss you guy's beat me to it with the whole Ford owning 1/4 of BMW.. but, i'll just reiterate what everyone else stated.. BMW is owned by NO ONE. BMW actually is owner of MINI, and currently has stakes in Ferrari, and i believe Rolls Royce. When i read that statement, i nearly fell off my chair in shock. But i'm glad that my thinking that this false was supported by several other people..



According to the information i have, Ford actually owns only 33% of Mazda. This source is about a year old, so they might have purchased full ownership of Mazda.



Another big Automotive owner is Volkswagen, owning a total of 6 companies. these being: Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Seat and Skoda (the last two are manufacutrers only available in Europe).
 
PathfinderGuy said:


According to the information i have, Ford actually owns only 33% of Mazda. This source is about a year old, so they might have purchased full ownership of Mazda.



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Actually, you have the percentage correct, but that 33% amounts to controlling interest. Ford is basically running Mazda. The last two presidents of Mazda, in Japan have been Ford V.P.'s from Dearborn, not Japanese nationals, and Mazda is run as if it was a part of Ford's Asia Pacific and African operations. Ford needs Mazda shareholder approval for the appointments of the executives, but a 33% stake in the company virtually gives Ford control of Mazda.
 
PathfinderGuy said:
Another big Automotive owner is Volkswagen, owning a total of 6 companies. these being: Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Seat and Skoda (the last two are manufacutrers only available in Europe).
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Dosen't VW have Porsche too? :confused:
 
Here's some more trivia: Renault owns Nissan, and GM owns Suzuki.



I am a big fan of domestics, and will always have at least one in my garage. I am also a big Ford fan. That being said, what Ford has done to Jaguar is a shame. The S-type and the X-type are sad, sad cars. I was behind a silver '02 Taurus on the freeway last week, and in the next lane was a silver '02 S-type. The cars were driving right next to one another. From the rear, they were identical!



I remember when Jaguars used to be outrageously expensive, wonderful cars. Today half of the lineup consists of rebadged Fords. There is still hope for Jaguar- so long as the brand is still alive, there is hope for the future- but right now, it's not good.
 
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