What coating to try next...

BudgetPlan1 said:
Ah...didnt realize we were talking about TAC Systems.

UHS looked interesting. Wonder what`s so great about 2 part Climax to warrant $389 price tag?

Looks like one could purchase all coatings from USA website. Moderately pricey.

Sure don`t hear much about them here; have heard more about them on some UK forums, Moonlight is a favorite over there it seems.
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The tac system Climax is their 5 year coating for pro installers. It`s no flash time just crosswise application and directly wipe off and that is important to do in only one direction. Then the second phase is applyied after 2 hours and this one can be layered.

One layer of tac system Sparkle plus is 3+ years. And is straight forward application of it also with no flash time. After an hour quarts max needs to be applyied to prevent water spotting during the full curing time for Sparkle Plus.
 
kevincwelch said:
Well, I`m going for Sparkle+ and Top Coat then. I just wish they`d have discounts and sales.
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Wonder if it`s possible to cure without IR?

Should try TAC at some point but no IR avaliable. Probably just as well.

Looking forward to your experience wirh it.
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I’ve got Sparkle Plus, which is supposed to be 90% Si02. Planning on topping it with Top Coat. I just wish they would give better (some) instructions on how to apply. I guess it will apply like any other coating. Just waiting for a few days of good weather to get started.
 
I don`t know why it would have to be IR cured. Doesn`t that just accelerate the curing? Even their entry level coating describes IR coating. When they say "max efficiency," I think they mean equivalent to fastest cure.

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rlmccarty2000 said:
I’ve got Sparkle Plus, which is supposed to be 90% Si02. Planning on topping it with Top Coat. I just wish they would give better (some) instructions on how to apply. I guess it will apply like any other coating. Just waiting for a few days of good weather to get started.
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Not the greatest for sure.

I did get this from David about 9 months ago when inquiring:

1)shelf life for unopened coatings, im actually waiting on an answer from the manufacturer myself. Open coatings shelf life is 3 months, i can atleast tell you that right now.2)as far as comparing tacsystem coatings to gtechniq or gyeon is something i cannot do, havent really played with gyeon at all and only tried gtehcniq twice. i do know this - our coatings is one layer for X amount of durabilty. for UHS or sparkle is one layer for 3 years durability. after an hour of application you can add a coating topper (quartz max) or top.coat 1.0 or an additional layer of UHS or Sparkle. most companies wont give you the % of Sio2 in their coatings, we do.
3)all description i gave you will be on the new website. not live yet, just parked for now. TAC System Car Care Products - TAC System USA - not completely live right now.
4) top coat can be added on top of sparkle and UHS - super hydrophobic surface. can be used as a lsp as well.
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And besides having a s*** ton of MF suede, the box of Shine I got did have some additional instructions.
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I don`t think I can link to the place I buy it from. It`s the Swedish reseller of tac system and Polish Angel. The write up on the products is in English though so if anyone want the link to the website just send a pm. Or google streetpower-rekond or write it in the webbrowser and finish with dot se and you can navigate your way through.

What I have noticed with tac system is that their description can vary alot from place to place. So many times it`s best to look at the product bottle or package. For an example I have their one step compound tac system Refinish Ultra that claims to get p600 sanding marks. Some says it to have sio2 in it as a primer. But the long lasting gloss they say is for it`s not any fillers in them so what you see is what you get. Also they mixup the deminishing abrasive and non deminishing abrasive. As far as I know to be accurate is their Refinish 1-3 polishes is non deminishing abrasive and Refinish Ultra is a deminishing abrasive. The Refinish Ultra and Refinish 1 has the same cutting ability but RU is deminishing abrasive and R1 is non deminishing abrasive.

Then for those who is intresting to use a coating that needs certified installer. You have the ability to do so with Climax and Sparkle Plus. The uhs was just released to the consumer here in Sweden. I think that the IR cure is for be able to apply the second phase without the 2 hours waiting time. That I think is a great way for pro detailers to have. But do respect this coatings as they are the real deal I think. So it`s not a thing for a beginner as me. And be prepared to the extreme high concentration of sio2 they have in them. That is what is the difference between consumer and certified installer coatings IMO. But what an oppertunity for you weekend warriors that wants to test this out and for you pro detailers also that wants to test certified installer coatings!
 
SWETM said:
If you want to go with Polish Angel I would test Viking Coat. Use the Glasscoat Invicible primer as a base layer if you need to do a finish polish. If don`t have to polish you can use the Glasscoat Invicible primer spritz that get you the same without the polishing effect. Layer viking coat with 2 layer. And if you want to use a topper you could go with viking spritz or cosmic spritz. This maybe it`s not needed to a fleet vehical.
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Add to that, it’s a product that’s sold here.... :)

(I will admit, considering going the PA route and would like to see your comparison thoughts)
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Saw that on their FB feed, their version of Syncro perhaps? Address the lack of slickness and feel that Cquartz lacks on it`s own?
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I don`t think so. Sounds like it is still going to be a stand alone coating with some tweaks to improve it`s overall performance. Corey sort of confirmed this in the CarPro facebook group. I guess if someone want`s Syncro level they would need to use Gliss but that is more like Booster.
 
I`ve been kinda keeping up all along but wondered if there was a summation post somewhere in the last several pages on cost and longevity along with ease of application. I have a friend who is wanting his white C6 coated this spring. I have used Cquartz products on my own but was leaning toward 22ple HPC for his or sticking with Cquartz since thats what I`m familiar with. Anything newer and better?
Thanks for Keeping this one going.
 
Try not to laugh... I will be trying....Dr. Beasley`s Plasmacoat and only on the roof of my truck for now, maybe the hood too. (taking baby steps)
 
Crooz1n said:
I`ve been kinda keeping up all along but wondered if there was a summation post somewhere in the last several pages on cost and longevity along with ease of application. I have a friend who is wanting his white C6 coated this spring. I have used Cquartz products on my own but was leaning toward 22ple HPC for his or sticking with Cquartz since thats what I`m familiar with. Anything newer and better?
Thanks for Keeping this one going.
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Here`s a summary of when they were applied and when they were `refreshed`. Regarding 22ple HPC specifically, it`s still solid as can be, still stays remarkably clean. Applied 03/30/2017, refreshed in November 2017 (20K miles perhaps, rarely garaged, run thru touchless soap/rinse only washed maybe 3 times.) with 22ple Glass Coat Clay, topped with 22ple Finitura...the stuff is just plain *GOOD*. Cquartz is still quietly doing nicely, always looks clean as well. My top choice is still the Kamkiaze combo as it has a deeper, warmer glow, especially on dark paint and the ISM portion of it really `floats` metallic in a really mesmerizing (to me) kinda way. It`s a more complex look than the molten glass gloss of 22ple. Add to the fact that the 22ple was, bay far, the easiest coating I`ve used knocks it up a notch or two as well.

Any of the VAN or RANGER vehicles below rarely, if ever, see a wash and most sit outside 97% of the time. To be quite honest, of all the products I have used, NONE were poor with regards to performance although my Crystal Serum Light truck stays the least clean, followed by Pearl Nano. Kamikaze and 22ple are really amazing at how clean they stay with little effort.

Van 1: Kamikaze Miyabi x 2, ISM x 1, Infinity Wax x 1, Overcoat applied 02/08/2017.


Van 3: Feynlab Ceramic + TopCoat applied 02/02/2018


Van 9: Cquartz & Gyeon Cure applied 01/2017; wash, decon, CanCoat + IGL Premier refresh 10/2017.


Van 10: Gloss Shop Ceramic V1 applied 03/2017


Van 11: 22ple HPC + VS1 Final Coat applied March 2017; refresh 01/2017 w/ 22ple glass coat clay, 22ple Finitura & 22ple VS1 Final Coat


Van 12: Gyeon One + Gyeon Cure applied to hood 02/12/2018; Gyeon One removed and Nanolex Si3D + SiFinish applied 03/08/2018 to body, McKees V2 to roof.


Van 13: Gyeon Syncro applied 01/26/2018


Van 14: The Gloss Shop Ceramic Coating V2, applied 03/14/2018


Van 15: Gtechniq CSL + C2v3 applied 02/2017; wash, decon, CanCoat + Kamikaze Overcoat refresh 10/2017.


Van 17: Gyeon Prime + CanCoat + IGL Premier applied 11/2017; hood buffed clean, HydroSilex Recharge, Kamikaze OVercoat & 22ple VS1 Final Coat applied in 1/3 sections, 02/03/2018


Van 18 Hood: IGL Quartz + Premier (passenger side) and 22ple HPC + Finitura + VS1 Final Coat (driver side) applied 12/2017


Ranger 6: Gyeon Mohs + Cure applied 02/2017; wash, decon Gyeon CanCoat refresh 10/2017.


Ranger 7: Gloss Shop Ceramic Coating V2 applied 10/2017.


Ranger 9: Pearl Nano applied 03/2017.


Black Honda CR-V: 22ple HPC + VS1 applied April 2017.


White 2017 Ford F150: Gyeon Mohs + Gyeon Booster applied 11/2017.


Crystal Red 2017 Ford Explorer: 22ple HPC + Finitura applied 11/2017.


Black Ford Focus: Gyeon Prime + Cure applied April 2017; CanCoat refresh 11/2017.


Black Ford Focus: Kamikaze Miyabi + ISM + Overcoat applied 10/2017.


Mint Green Toyota Camry: Gyeon Prime + Cure applied April 2017.


Aegean Blue 2016 Honda Civic: Kamikaze Miyabi + ISM + Infinity Wax + Overcoat applied 10/2016.


Black 2017 Honda Accord: Kamikaze Miyabi + ISM + Infinity Wax + Overcoat applied 9/2017, Decon 02/19/2018 w/ Gyeon Tar, Whips Wax Salt Remover.


Lunar Silver 2018 Honda HR-V; Gyeon Primer + Gyeon One + Gyeon CanCoat, applied 02/09/2018


Soon to be used: be used: Gyeon Pure.
 
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