What coating to try next...

CQuartz UK, Gyeon MOHS, Gtechniq CSL w/ Liquid Crystal c2v3 done. For some intangible reason I`m initially most pleased with the CSL application/looks.

Application for all was surprisingly uneventful with no high spots that required re-doing. Cquartz & CSL done in a 55-60 degree warehouse, Gyeon MOHS at home in garage on 60 degree day.

Sitting on desk waiting to go are The Gloss Shop Ceramic Coating and 22ple HPC and Gyeon Q2 Booster on the way which I think I`ll use over McKees Paint Coating although I have enough Cquartz UK and CSL left that I could use those as a base for Booster as well. Decisions, decisions...

Might add Gyeon Prime to the list as I really seem to like Gyeon stuff lately but other than that, kinda outta coating choices I want to try.

So far the vehicles aren`t seeing much use but in about a month they should all see pretty intense daily use so that`s when it`ll get interesting.

It is fun to walk in work every morning and see the finished ones lined up and see the slight differences in appearance between them.
 
What about gloss coat ? There is the Kamikaze line of coatings. 22ple, IGL looks interesting as well as Pearl Nano.

Then the Sonax coating just recently came out as well

It`s cool you have the platforms to do all of these. We appreciate the testing


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SgtMajUSMC said:
What are you using on your personal vehicles?

I`ve got Wolfgang on three and happy with it. Ordered a new ZL1 and trying to decide what to go with on that when I get it.

Supposed to be built week of 17 April. Hyper Blue Metallic with new A10. Will match my LB C7.

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Love this car and color. Can`t wait to see yours!
 
MattPersman said:
What about gloss coat ? There is the Kamikaze line of coatings. 22ple, IGL looks interesting as well as Pearl Nano.

Then the Sonax coating just recently came out as well

It`s cool you have the platforms to do all of these. We appreciate the testing


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I have the Kamikaze Miyabi x2 plus ISM x1 on one of our personal cars already...it`s what will be going on our other cars this Spring. Simply incredible looks, performance and self-cleaning properties. I *know* that stuff works!

Have 22ple HPC sitting on my desk, will probably apply next weekend w/ their VS1 Final Coat on top.

Probably gonna try the Optimum Gloss Coat since I can grab a 10cc tube of that for around $40 so why not?

IGL sounds nice, maybe I`ll see if I can get some of that somewhere; wanted to try Beeds but I don`t think a non-pro can get a hold of that.

Can snatch some Jade Quartz locally and at $120 for $50 ml bottle not too expensive.

For some reason the Sonax didn`t interest me but just watched the SEMA video on it and now I`m intrigued.

This is all self-funded so cost v. entertainment value will eventually reach a tipping point...but restraint ain`t one of my better qualities so who knows. Usually i wsit for one of the supply joints to have at m8nimum a 20% off offer so cost doesnt get stupid crazy.

Also, while our fleet contains many small Ford Rangers (which I can usually get 2 coats outta 30ml bottle), after that it`s Ford E250 panel vans (gotta move up to 50ml bottle) and I`m getting a little tired of correction those darn things, especially the roofs! Doing a 2016 Ford Transit Extended just seemed to go on forever
 
The Sonax offering just seems like an afterthought. I looks like is would be easy to apply, but they say apply PNS after 6 months. I like PNS as a stand alone that lasts 6 months on its own. Plenty of options. I`m still loving CarPro CQuartz, easy to apply and looks great. Pinnacle V2 is so easy it`s like cheating. So many good coatings on the market it is hard to go wrong.
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
The Sonax offering just seems like an afterthought. I looks like is would be easy to apply, but they say apply PNS after 6 months.
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Well, given that condition, the Sonax is out. Part of what I`m looking for is long-term, good self cleaning properties and nice looks.

I`m hoping the Gyeon Mohs comes out on top but gotta say the Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light is my favorite so far for reasons I can`t quantify yet. It just `feels` like my favorite so far (excluding the Kamikaze stuff).

May give the regular CQuartz a try. (oops...looks like i DID already give CQuartz a try...thinking it was CQuartz UK...Doh!)

All things could change once these vehicles are out on the road daily 8n about a month or so.

During Spring/Summer the most attention these things will get will likely be a Gyeon Bathe+ wash and Gyeon Wetcoat rinse once a month or so.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Well, given that condition, the Sonax is out. Part of what I`m looking for is long-term, good self cleaning properties and nice looks.

I`m hoping the Gyeon Mohs comes out on top but gotta say the Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light is my favorite so far for reasons I can`t quantify yet. It just `feels` like my favorite so far (excluding the Kamikaze stuff).

May give the regular CQuartz a try.

All things could change once these vehicles are out on the road daily 8n about a month or so.

During Spring/Summer the most attention these things will get will likely be a Gyeon Bathe+ wash and Gyeon Wetcoat rinse once a month or so.
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How about the Cquatz UK + Cquartz TiO2 combo. Looks like a nice combination worth trying.

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Here is what Corey told me when I messaged him about the benefits of this combo.

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Well, a little note of clarity re: the CQuartz UK...apparently I actually applied the `regular` CQuartz. Double checked the original order and, yep, CQuartz itself (which I`m guessing is now the CQuartz TiO2?) was what I ordered. Ooops...so, any references above to CQuartz UK should be read as `CQuartz`. On the plus side, the CQuartz applied very nicely in 55 degree weather...

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I`ll bet yer all really having faith in any results of anything I do now :wacko:...such is life. Anyway...

The Guz said:
How about the Cquatz UK + Cquartz TiO2 combo. Looks like a nice combination worth trying.
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Well, this certainly looks like an interesting combo; since I have about 20ml of Cquartz sitting here, could easily snatch up 30ml of the UK (Yeah, the actual UK version this time!) and give it a go. I think I will once I`m done with the 22ple HPC (later this week) and the Gloss Shop Ceramic coating. Bit of a shame as someone was just offering 20% off last weekend on CarPro products...Doh! This is the first I`ve heard about the UK as a base + CQuartz on top; is this common?

cliffgorge9012 said:
Try the Pearl nano ceramic coating or email Dave@Pearlnano.com it is good in business here in Philippines, I have guaranteed 3-5years of protection. I have been using lots of ceramic coating ever since. From Ceramic Pro, and Cquartz UK. But now switching other ceramic coating thats for my opinion it is very good and satisfied clients. So far so good here in my detailing shops. Mark Barger a Professional and Technical detailer/owner of Visual Pro Detailing conducting a training there and it helps for your auto detailing business Join us on Pearl Nano Coatings FB Groups. The Groups dedicated to educating, helping and communicating with the detailers and installers who use and/ or sell the Pearl Nano Coating products.
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I`d be more than happy to give it a shot if pricing is reasonable but my cursory investigations indicate this may be another `Pro Only` type deal (ie. IGL and Beeds) so not sure I could get my hands on it.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Well, this certainly looks like an interesting combo; since I have about 20ml of Cquartz sitting here, could easily snatch up 30ml of the UK (Yeah, the actual UK version this time!) and give it a go. I think I will once I`m done with the 22ple HPC (later this week) and the Gloss Shop Ceramic coating. Bit of a shame as someone was just offering 20% off last weekend on CarPro products...Doh! This is the first I`ve heard about the UK as a base + CQuartz on top; is this common?
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Yeah this is supposedly referred to as TiO2. BAsically regular cquartz or cquartz classic. I stumbled upon that combo on Autogeek. Seems to be somewhat common as I saw another post on the carpro forum on a blue truck.
 
I talked to them yesterday, began the process to see if I can get a hold of some. Initially it looks like it may be a winner if it performs as advertised. Of course, the world would be a much better place if everything worked as advertised. Nice folks too.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
I talked to them yesterday, began the process to see if I can get a hold of some. Initially it looks like it may be a winner if it performs as advertised. Of course, the world would be a much better place if everything worked as advertised. Nice folks too.
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Got some of the Pearl Nano base/topcoat/glass coating on the way...great bunch of folks there.

Based on the some limited use in rain & snow and just general appearance of the completed vehicles, so far I like:

1. Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light + Liquid Crystal c2v3 = Looks the glossiest, has kept itself the cleanest. Darkened the paint a bit (bright red)
2. Gyeon Mohs, 2 layers + Cure = Looks nice and glossy but less so than the CSL. A bit less `self-cleaning` than the CSL as well; rain did not start sliding off the hood until around 50mph.
3. CQuartz = Looks OK, not quite as glossy as the above 2. Dunno...just not as `inspiring` as the above 2.

Sitting on my desk and ready to go:
- 22ple HPC
- The Gloss Shop Ceramic Coating
- Gyeon Booster (which I`ll likely use over McKees 37 Paint Coating)

On the way:
- Pearl Nano

Winter has returned to NE Ohio and despite being able to work in a heated warehouse, likely won`t get back to correcting/coating and vehicles until next week. All I wanna do after work in this weather is go the heck home.
 
Pearl Nano done; nice stuff application/I it is appearance-wise.

The Pearl Nano looked a bit nicer/glossier this morning after curing since Saturday. Not the slickest of finishes, much like some of the other coatings can be.

Snatched up some final items to finish up the coatings `experience`; leaves me with the following yet to do:

2010 Ford E250 van in a dark crimson metallic: Probably 2 coats of Gloss Shop Ceramic Coating

2016 Ford Transit Extended Van in bright red: 2 layers 22ple HPC

2104 Ford E250 Van in bright red: 2 layers Gyeon Prime.

Gonna have bits of some coatings left so I`ll probably pick a vehicle and do separate panels each using a bit of all the coatings except Gyeon Mohs which I used all up.

Still gotta figure out what to do with the Gyeon Booster...maybe original idea of using over McKees Paint Coating.

That extended transit van is gonna suck but can probably get away with a one step with Menz 2400 or M205.
 
dennis hiip said:
I will be going with Polish Angel Viking topped with spritz.
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Would love to give it a try but a bit too costly to include in this grouping.

Will maybe give it a try on a vehicle `that matters` some day.

Have some High Gloss so realize that PA makes some good stuff but in Kamikaze neighborhood, cost wise.

Maybe it is the cost but I just really aren`t that ?interested? in Polish Angel for some reason I can`t quite put my finger on. I dunno why, really.

rlmccarty2000 said:
The CQuartz probably needs some Reset or Gyeon Booster on top to give it more hydrophobic abilities to match the others.
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Used Gyeon Cure as a `Reload substitute` after Cquartz application to give it a bit protection while it cured for a few days. The CSL got C2V3 in a like manner, the Mohs and Prime got/will get Cure after application and the 22ple will receive V1.

The others really don`t mention a specific sacrificial layer to protect after application so guess they`ll get nothing...
 
Crap...sucked in by the FLASH25 sale e-mail I rec`d at 12:10am...add Dr. Beasley`s Nano-Coating to the list. Gonna likely end up with a bunch of coatings will a little leftover in each bottle. Will have to pick out a vehicle and do 1 panel in each leftover coating; that should look interesting by the end of summer....probably try to let absolutely NOTHING touch that patchwork vehicle except for rain and see what happens.

Dr. Beasley’s Nano-Resin Hydrophobic Coating


Nano-Resin is a semi-permanent ceramic paint coating designed to provide the longest lasting paint protection possible. It provides a durable, hydrophobic barrier which will last 2-3 years. Once your vehicle has been coated with Nano-Resin it will be protected from marring, staining, UV damage, and damage from airborne contaminants. And not only will it protect the paint surface, but it will give the vehicle a hyper reflective gloss beyond anything a wax or sealant could provide.


Many other coatings contain harsh chemicals which can be damaging to your health. You can tell just by smelling them. You`ll notice that Nano-Resin doesn`t have that same chemical smell that other paint coatings have. Dr. Beasley’s formulated a coating product without using harsh chemicals other ceramic coatings rely on, so you don`t have to worry about your health or the environmental impact of the product you`re using.


Technical Information: Nano Resin`s water contact angle is 110 degrees. One layer of this coating is approximately 2 microns thick. Nano Resin`s pH tolerance is 11.


Directions
Before applying Nano Resin, paint must be prepped. Clay and polish your paint with a light compound and a random orbital machine buffer. If your paint is heavily scratched, more polishing will be required.


Mix one part isopropyl alcohol (IPA) with four parts water in a spray bottle. Spray and wipe the entire vehicle with your IPA solution.


Wrap the suede cloth around the foam block applicator and apply ~10 drops of Nano on the cloth in a line.


Start by applying Nano in vertical lines down the panel. After you`ve covered your panel with vertical lines, go back and repeat with horizontal lines. This will ensure full coverage. Avoid getting the product in panel gaps.


When you see the product flashing (it will appear slightly iridescent), wipe the panel with a clean, dry, tagless microfiber towel.


Repeat steps 4-5 on each panel until your entire vehicle is protected. Reapply several drops of Nano on your applicator after a few panels.


After coating your entire vehicle, leave it undisturbed for one hour.
Additional Information:
Do NOT apply Nano-Resin in direct sunlight. Do not allow this product to freeze during storage.


If applied in temperatures less than 65-70⁰ the vehicle may need more flash time. In warmer, more arid climates Nano-Resin will need less flash time.


Inspect the vehicle in natural light for a better view of high spots.


Keep vehicle completely dry between applications and for at least 1 hour after final application. After 1 hour the vehicle can be exposed to light rain without affecting the bonding process.


Full cure will take 24-48 hours. After fully cured the surface will be noticeably glossier and the coating will be at full hardness.


Leaving the vehicle in the sun or under infrared lamps after application will shorten the amount of time needed for Nano-Resin to bond to the paint surface.


Avoid washing the vehicle with soap for 7 days after application. After this follow our prescribed maintenance regimen.
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BudgetPlan1 said:
The others really don`t mention a specific sacrificial layer to protect after application so guess they`ll get nothing...
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First off I want to personally thank you for the support! The only thing I suggest with The Gloss Shop Ceramic Coating is to allow 24 hours before exposing to water. If you decide to apply a second layer, it is recommended to wait 12 hours. I have layered after 1-2 hours with no adverse affects. Pay attention to temperature and application time. If the residue becomes too tacky during removal then cut your time down or reduce the work area. A final wipe with a higher nap towel after 2 hours is recommended but do so gently.

You can message me here, on Facebook, or Instagram if you need assistance. If you have an iPhone you can text me via iMessage or FaceTime.

Thanks,
Richard
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
The CQuartz probably needs some Reset or Gyeon Booster on top to give it more hydrophobic abilities to match the others.
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Finally got a chance to get an extended look at the Cquartz vehicle in the sun today next to Mohs and Pearl Nano vehicles; it looked the `candiest` look in those conditions. The Mohs and Pearl looked more deep and warm in comparison.

Me eyes are getting crossed trying to discern minute differences in the bright red vehicles. Starting tomorrow on an older van with dark maroon metallic paint. Will get the Gloss Shop Ceramic Coating.

Will just need medium and fine compound/polish. One side is in *really* good shape as it was completely redone last October after a Tech peeled the passenger side off going thru a drive thru. So that`ll be easy.
 
Used The Gloss Shop Ceramic coating today. Indoors, about 67 degrees. Used a block/suede cloth to apply as opposed to enclosed microfiber applicator...just more familiar. It seemed to go a pretty long way, guess I used about 20ml to do one layer of Ford E250 panel van...lotsa painted area to cover for sure. Thicker consistency right outta the bottle (thankfully one of those `dropper top` bottles so no fumbling with separate eye dropper) but spread smooth and far. Seemed around 1:30 was a good wipe off interval. A bit tacky on removal but nothing unusual.

Varied wipe off time from about 1 -5 minutes a few times, no lasting I`ll effects, always removed as could be expected.

Seems to be more of a candy type of gloss initially, paint dark brown/burgandy metallic...looked really nice in the `good spots` of the vehicles. For some reason reminded me of root beer.

Anyway, will probably drop anther coat firs thing tomorrow morning to see what happens.

As it is, if durability is near advertised, this will be a very good option at an exceptional price/coverage.

We shall see...

I think Gyeon Prime is likely next...
 
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