weird residue with AIO

[BillNorth]

Bill, as we have said before all that really matters is that we are satisfied with the product.

However, if a 'cure' period, as you and others like to refer to this phenomena, of 24 hours was important I fail to see why Klasse would not mention this on the bottles?

After all, their goal is to make kilos of Euros for the Company and its investors and this can only be accomplished by producing a quality product, which isn't difficult to use and which provides superior results.

These are the virtues which I can attribute to Klasse.



BUT, the President of Klasse USA does state to let the -second-coat of sg to remain on for :8-12: hours before more apps AND that all problems with difficult removal can be traced to not using a micro fiber cloth for final buffing, using too much product, using a dry app and, in accordance to your thoughts, not waiting long enough before removal.



Now the real interesting question becomes, why do so many of us who only wait about a half and hour have such remarkable results?



If as you say I am only realizing a true one coat of SG this is some powerful stuff as I get very close to a full year of real good looks and obvious protection.



Note that both vehicles are garaged at home, one-the daily driver is garaged at work also BUT is used year round, big negative here in the salty Northeast and they get washed an awful lot, including a no touch auto during the winter and heavens knows what is in the water.

Edwin, thank you for your input, I appreciate it.



RJJ, to your post. Frankly, I have a hard time believing that Klasse USA knows their own product. They say one thing one day, and something else another day.



Do you know where I got the WOO application method from? I got it from the same Bob Faragasso who now advocates a totally different method. And BTW, the method Bob outlined in the CMA newsletter was not described as the scientific way. He described it as the way many enthusiasts use the product with 'excellent' results.



I've tried all the application techniques for SG. I've applied and removed after an hour, applied and removed after 24 hours, I've used wet and dry towels, I've applied multiple coats successively, and all the methods have a major flaw to them. WOO with a 1 week wait time (I'm not a big fan of 24 hours either, not long enough) works best for me.



I don't even get 1 year out of three coats of SG regardless of method, WOO or WOH. I don't know how you're managing 1 year. It would lead me to believe that you're not actually aware of when the product has really faded from your paint.



Again, JMO. We can probably go round and round on this forever.

 

[RJJ]

Bill, I assure you that I know when there is still product on our cars and after at about the 10th or 11th month the water still beads/ponds, the finish is still slick and I am still happy.



I guess for those of us who are not expert it is best to read this great forum, try a few different techniques and run with the one that works for you.



As for me, my own experience has shown that two or three apps of aio followed by roughly the same in sg with a short wait, 20-30 minutes, between 'coats' works just great and if ignorance is bliss...............

 

[Mikeman]

I've been doing a lot of AIO/SG by hand, over the past several months, on six different cars (neighbors). Based on this experience, I believe the following to be true:



1) Waiting a week between layers of SG makes for a better shine than waiting overnight (8-12 hours).



2) There is no such thing as "too little SG".



3) If you need a damp MF or QD to remove dry SG, you have applied too much product. (1 oz per car)



4) Excellent lighting is essential to applying a very thin coat of SG while still being certain of good coverage. When you're not positive about coverage, you use more product. In the case of SG, "more" is probably too much.



5) Bill North's method works well. You can get away with using too much product.



6) The damp towel/ dry towel method works if you need it due to using too much product, and/or letting it dry too long while attempting the Bill North method. The key to this is for the damp towel to be just slightly damp, not wet. I create damp towels by spritzing several times with distilled water. I get the towel just damp enough to remove the stubborn SG with moderate pressure. I haven't noticed any hazing due to the damp towel so far. I will be watching for this.



7) SG itself can be used to remove stubborn SG. Rub the stubborn spot briefly with SG, then immediately wipe it off.



8) AIO that is worked in thoroughly, and wiped off immediately afterward, comes off easily. (work in small sections)



9) AIO that is not worked much can be stubborn, especially if it is dry.



Mikeman