Waxes with coating properties,

top189h

top189h

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After Synergy released, I really expected more products similar to it to come out, but so far I've only seen synergy and kamikaze's infinity wax. Are there others that I'm missing or is it not a common type of product?
 
What do you consider "coating properties"?

To me, a coating is beneficial because of its added thickness, chemical resistance, and durability compared to traditional types of protection (ie sealants and waxes). All forms of LSP will bead/sheet water well, so to me that isn't a true comparison, and therefore I don't consider any wax or sealant to truly have "coating properties"... but that is just me.
 
My idea of chemical coating properties come from the description of Synergy. It claims to have nanoglass particles that are found in the Black Label coatings, and Kamikaze claims to have 39% glass coating in it. I've never used either product but I'm just curious because it sounded innovative if it worked. As for what I define as a coating property physically to be, I would say the chemical resistance and the self cleaning component. I've never gotten the self cleaning effect from any sealant much less wax that I see from true coatings. My main reason for asking about it, is my CQUK is dying out on my dd and I want to replace it with something similar but easier to use, and I was either just going to go back to waxing it or try a product like this.
 
My thing is
if it doesn't offer scratch/impact protection, its not a coating...just another sealant
if someone could some out with a coating spray that bonds ti itself that would be sweet ahaha
 
top189h- That sounds like exactly what I get from FK1000P, and that's why it's become my go-to LSP.

I get self-cleaning from FK1000P that *IME* equals that of OptiCoat v2.0 (unfair comparison though as I only use the coating on wheels and I do think it works slightly better for that specific application). Zero etching from birds/bugs too (I don't bother cleaning them off between washes, once left bugs on for months without any etching...works so well for me that I have zero interest in using a coating on the body of the car proper. Yeah, I have to redo it more often, and there's no marring resistance, but those shortcomings don't bother me and I like being able to do spot-correction as needed.

I mean...I'll have a FK1000P'ed vehicle that's really dirty, and then a hard rain basically washes it clean (well, clean enough..). Or I'll do my Pressure Washer Rinse and decide it looks so clean I won't bother washing it after all, and I just blow it dry.
 
Scratch and impact protection would be a dream product. I hear they are coming out with healing paint. The breaches whether scratched or chipped will actually close up and mend themselves. That would not be good for business.
 
Didnt someone like Infiniti already come out with that self healing paint ?
Did I dream that ?? :)
Dan F
 
Coatings will be the standard once they apply and look like a wax. The Viking coat from polish angel is the future. I applaud them for getting it right. They are clearly ahead of the curve. Sonus Ion is also in that vein.
 
Stokdgs said:
Didnt someone like Infiniti already come out with that self healing paint ?
Did I dream that ?? :)
Dan F
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Self-healing is NOT self-cleaning.
Ask any pro-detailer who has worked on this paint and they will tell you horror stories about how difficult it is to "correct" this paint/clear coat to get it to look decent. Even with the information within this forum, it seemed like a lot of pro-detailers went through a learning curve of trial-and-error to find a combination of pads, polishes, and rotary/DA polisher speeds and application pressure and techniques that worked for them.
 
Accumulator said:
top189h- That sounds like exactly what I get from FK1000P, and that's why it's become my go-to LSP.....


I mean...I'll have a FK1000P'ed vehicle that's really dirty, and then a hard rain basically washes it clean (well, clean enough..). Or I'll do my Pressure Washer Rinse and decide it looks so clean I won't bother washing it after all, and I just blow it dry.
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Dang it, Accumulator!! Every time I read another (infinite numbered) post from you, you sing the praises of FK1000P and it makes me feel like I'm missing out on all the advantages that this LSP has to offer at a very reasonable price and it's very easy to apply. Once again, it's time from me (and other fellow Autopians) to join the FK1000P bandwagon and add this to our own "accumulation" of car-care products.
 
Lonnie- The stuff is *so* satisfactory that I'm seriously considering selling off my other LSPs for chump-change since I'll never use them. Well, OK..I'll keep something different for the Jag and '93 Audi; I'll readily admit that it's not the right LSP for every car/color/situation. But for any light-colored driver I simply can't imagine a better choice.

If I offered to buy any FK1000P that I'd recommended if it proved unsatisfactory, I bet I'd *never* have to do it.

Seriously, I don't make my FK1000P recommendations lightly in part because everybody's different and also because around here I figure that people already have their favorites when it comes to something as basic as "which wax?". Hey, I was a satisfied KSG and Collinite user for *ages* before I finally, and somewhat begrudgingly, tried the FK1000P and I was *certain* that I'd hate it on that metallic black Yukon I had...until I lived with it for a while.

Oh, and if anybody gets some rock-hard FK1000P they oughta contact FinishKare and see about getting a replacement. It's *NOT* supposed to be hard, and their Customer Service is good (IME), so if a bad tin/batch slipped through I'd expect them to make it right. (OR, just try spritzing some FK425 in the tin to soften it up...but I'd ask 'em for a new tin.)
 
I was basically asking the same question in my zaino thread - up here in the northeast modesta has been making a big push. zaino has been radio silent for many years
 
ttforcefed said:
I was basically asking the same question in my zaino thread - up here in the northeast modesta has been making a big push. zaino has been radio silent for many years
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If you like z so much, just go on the store and order some duragloss. and save some $$$$$$$$$ (just tell everybody it's Z)
 
Accumulator got me on the FK1000P bandwagon and I love the stuff. As time goes on it's benefits become more and more apparent; almost totally self-cleaning when it rains, dead bug's fall of the paint, looks as good as the day I applied it, it's easy to use/apply, and the price is right!

There's only one con and it's hardly worth mentioning as it seems to be isolated to my 09 Sliver Jeep SRT8 only. For whatever reason, flys seem love my paint topped with FK1000P, not sure why its only me (now spiders have also been setting up shop and webbing up the car trying to catch all the flys, it's kind of funny at this point).
 
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