Washing Tools

In your case the BHB is the key. I never really considered them. I wouldn't mind getting paint brush versions of them, but for now I'll wait to see if the presently available ones on the market return to the quality of the ones you have.
 
Bill D- Well, there's still that Monatana one from AutoGeek. Considering how your vehicles don't get awful-filthy it might not be "too gentle to be effective" for you. For that matter, it might have to be OK for me too, since I'm not aware of any others currently on the market that are any good. Actually, with the current BHB situation I can forsee a pressure washer in my future, which doesn't please me :grinno:



A more Autopian attitude would have me saying "I can forsee more frequent washes in my future", huh? :o
 
It's a lot easier to keep a vehicle very clean and marring free when it's lightly soiled on a bad day, but to consistently get the same results when starting off with a truly dirty one, especially in bad winter conditions, now that's something to :yo: It reflects how well you can do your technique. Don't change what you're doing if you're still getting outstanding results. Do you have to get new BHBs really soon?
 
Bill D said:
.. Don't change what you're doing if you're still getting outstanding results. Do you have to get new BHBs really soon?



That "not changing what's working" is gonna get disrupted when I do need new BHBs, but I can't really predict when that'll be :nixweiss I don't think it's immanent, but I won't know until they don't pass the CD-test (or mar something :o ).
 
Hmm.. lets hope technology continues to be on our side, either with better BH or maybe something new and nifty to replace that material :nixweiss
 
sorry guys, i have been away from the forum for a while.... BHB's ?



what kind of mitts are you using ? i ordered some lambs wool mitts and they fell apart.

i have been using the MF noodle type mitt. Do you wash your drying towel often ? if the QD is supposed to help remove dirt, does the MF WW hold onto the dirt ?



i will try to locate some duragloss wash. budget is tight, so unless i find a super deal on some other online purchases, ORC will have to work.



i need to buy a couple new buckets with grit guards. it took me all summer to detail a couple cars ( family, and my own )



thanks for the extensive break down for answers, its very helpful !
 
BHB means boars hair brushes



You can save your wool mitts by hanging them to dry promptly after use. I've even hung them on the spout of my utility sink and they dried out well but the best results is to wash them well and let them hang dry or turn them inside out and put them in the dryer. This practice has always worked great for me



I'm finding the QD is mostly to aid drying helping the MF move better on the paint. If there's still dirt on the paint your actual washing process hasn't flushed it fully. Sometimes you really have to spend a lot of time and soap flushing the finish free of dirt and doing it in a way that youre keeping the finish marring free. I follow Accumulator's technique.
 
i always hang dry my mitts and the fibers still fall out from the mitt itself.

once my truck is clayed and waxed i will have to try the QD drying technique. this way, the water should bead and i can use the leaf blower.



as for the camaro, i guess the foam gun didnt remove enough of the dirt. foam 2-3 times, rinse, leaf blower to dry and then QD with MF still resulted in marring / swirls.



i will review my process..... sometimes its frustrating.



thanks again for the help
 
Sure thing. Remember to have the foam gun flowing the soapy water over the finish at the same time you wisk the mitt gently over it. Accumulator has the mitt filled with soapy water and holds it closed while whisking it. If the car is fairly dirty I would work on a smaller section at a time and I personally use multiple mitts during an involved wash session. Some trial and error is involved but eventually you can significantly reduce the amount of marring.
 
do you rinse the surface and then use the foam gun / mitt ? or do you foam a dry vehicle ?



i dont wash my vehicles in the garage during spring / summer / fall.....and most times i wash outside abouve 32* with ONR

( i hate winter )



i guess i wouldnt want panels to dry in the sun.....water spots is a whole other issue.



is there a thread that details all of my questions...i would hate it if you guys were repeating yourselves.
 
what kind of mitts are you using ? i ordered some lambs wool mitts and they fell apart...



I use both sheepskin and MF mitts. The latter can retain abrasive stuff, so be careful with those. Eh, I'd sat to stick with high-quality sheepskin and replace 'em as needed.



Mine sheepskin mitts last a long time and all I usually do is rinse them out an lay them over the edge of the bucket, don't even bother hanging them up any more.



i have been using the MF noodle type mitt.



Not a fan of those myself. I want a *LOT* of tiny fibers/hairs, not a smaller number of thicker ones.



Do you wash your drying towel often ?



Every single wash, and I use several of 'em even though I get most of the water off with the AirWand and compressor.



if the QD is supposed to help remove dirt, does the MF WW hold onto the dirt ?



There shouldn't be any dirt left by the time you dry, but yeah the QD will help get any residual dirt off safer. Yeah, the dirt gets transferred from the paint to the WW and you gotta keep an eye on the WW so you can refold/replace it if it becomes soiled.



i need to buy a couple new buckets with grit guards.



Eh, I don't use them. Took out the grit guard-like things in my Griot's buckets. If my mitts are dirty enough to leave much of any dirt in the rinse bucket I figure I did something very wrong.



as for the camaro, i guess the foam gun didnt remove enough of the dirt. foam 2-3 times, rinse, leaf blower to dry and then QD with MF still resulted in marring / swirls.



Did you just foam it like for a "touchless wash"? IF so then that's the problem; you need mechanical agitation (BHB, mitt, something) to knock the dirt loose. The trick is to do that very gently and let the foamgun flush it away.



I really *REALLY* gotta rewrite my wash technique thread some time...just never find the time.



VERY short version:



-Rinse vehicle

-Presoak one panel with foam

-Wash with BHB, spraying foamgun output at point of paint/BHB contact. Jiggle BHB and move pretty slowly, letting foamgun output flush/lubricate area being cleaned and also using it to flush the BHB clean

-Rinse, repeat as needed until you've done the whole panel and things look clean (wash a minimum of two times with BHB)

-Fill mitt with shampoo mix from bucket or fill it with the foamgun, hold it shut at the cuff so shampoo seeps out thorugh the sides of the mitt

-Rewash with mitt, spraying foamgun at point of paint/mitt contact. Rinse/refill mitt as needed, jiggle mitt (no long sweeping motions)

-Rinse, inspect, repeat wash with mitt as needed until you've done the whole panel

-Move on to next panel



I never do entire panels at a time and I avoid those long, sweeping motions that can lead to long scratches.
 
so how long does it take you to wash and dry an averaged sized car ?



my truck is black, hasnt been washed in 2 weeks and is filthy. somehow i dont think the gentle jiggling motion would clean the truck.



i will try using the foam gun to lube the surface as i wash.
 
For something like that under those circumstances, I could see myself easily doing a minimum 2 hours on especially considering it's black. I have no doubt it could easily exceed that if using Accumulator's exact method. It still might be worth it versus the time,expense,and hassle of polishing it if it doesn't already have wash induced marring.
 
well i only polish once a year.... usually in the spring time. this year life got in the way and i just havent had time.

but i need to get wax on there before winter hits.



i can't believe i went all summer without polishing the camaro
 
Washing my way doesn't really take me all that long, but all the other stuff I do makes washing a loooong process (first hour or so is wheels/wells/undercarriage, last hour or so is carefully QDing/drying jambs/underhood/etc. I can spend over fifteen minutes washing door/hood/trunk hinges). And yeah, I do all those areas at every wash, year-round.



Yeah, it takes longer than just wiping a mitt across a panel once, but if I cut any corners I end up with marring or nasty dirt accumulation (if I skip the undercarriage it's much dirtier next time, even in the summer). I seldom polish even once a year any more, just washes and the occasional re-LSPing.



The gentle jiggling motions do work best with LSPs that shed dirt readily, and even then it can take numerous passes. Note that the BHB step is just to get the "big stuff" off, the mitt is used a bit more aggressively and that gets the "road film"/etc. Anything that resists even that get's clayed off *VERY* gently...like "one swip over one inch, knead, repeat".
 
i currently have 3 in my arsenal.

wolfgang concourse

collinite 845

CMW



Of those I've only used the 845. It's good at dirt-shedding until it's not, if you know what I mean. Not in the same class as Fk1000P in that regard, but still it's sure not bad (I'm using 845 on my '93 Audi, which gets used pretty hard in the winter).
 
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