Wal Mart Terry Cloth

Let's get back to the original question which is about WAL MART terry towels.



Anything sold by Wal Mart is garbage, we all agree. Those towels are made in Pakistan most likely, and Shiny described them perfectly.



Unfortunately, Mr Clean's quality "Old Geezer" terrys are few and far between these days, hence the recommendation to use quality microfiber (certainly cheap enough).



But, If you want to use terry, Sherman made a solid recommendation about the new Meguiar's terry that I can vouch for (found at local auto chain stores). Also, Viking sells 100% cotton towels too. Those are the only terrys I would use on paint with a preference for the new Meguiar's.



If you want, you can try microfiber. If you don't have access to microfiber from the Internet, you can check out the VROOM brand at Target or the new Meguiars MF at local auto chain stores.



So, to answer your original question about WAL MART terrys, YES, they stink and will harm your paint. Try the Meguiars terry, microfiber or Brad B's foam pad suggestion. This way you can safely experiment with all and come to your own conclusion.



See? You ALL made valid points. I just pieced them together! Group hug now.
 
Spilchy said:
If you want, you can try microfiber. If you don't have access to microfiber from the Internet, you can check out the VROOM brand at Target or the new Meguiars MF at local auto chain stores.
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Another good MF brand (and the ones I use more than any other due to price and availability) are the "Hometex" branded blue MFs from Sam's Club and/or Costco. I've found these to be rather close to on-par with the bigger-name MFs from online vendors like PakShak. PakShaks I think are a little more plush, but past that I don't get too much difference in performance.



The Meg's and VROOM ones are good too, though. Just comes down to what is available.
 
So to make sure I'm clear on what to use for removing scratches and swirls, I have two options:



1. I should buy Megs Terry Cloth and use it for applying and removing polish



OR



2. I could use foam to apply the polish and MF to buff it off.



Is this correct?
 
Malachi71 said:
So to make sure I'm clear on what to use for removing scratches and swirls, I have two options:



1. I should buy Megs Terry Cloth and use it for applying and removing polish



OR



2. I could use foam to apply the polish and MF to buff it off.



Is this correct?
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Yes. Or you can use a MF to buff off option #1



The best option is to buy a buffer :p
 
If I were you I would do Spilchy's modified #1, the Meg's Terry for application (make sure to work it in really well!) and a good MF to buff it off.
 
This is a good topic of discussion. Let's keep it going!



Please remember our "No Bashing" rule.



EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion (right or wrong), regardless of how many posts they have or how many years they have been hanging out here. We are all equals when it comes to civility.



As was pointed out, it is not okay to preface a condescending statement with “no offense intended, but…â€� to get around the No Bashing rule. We all deserve respect!



Thanks,

db
 
Malachi71, in my area you can find the Meguiar's towel at Pep Boys. The AutoZones don't seem to carry them anymore. It is probably also available at some online venues as well.



An alternative to the Meguiar's towel, which is about $8 or $9 locally, would be 100% cotton bath or hand towels which you can find at stores like Linens-n-Things, Bed, Bath & Beyond, and your better department stores. The obvious is to either avoid those towels with embellishments or simply remove them. These towels are not quite as difficult to source as was posted earlier. A little time spent reading the labels and handling the textiles in these stores and you will be able to sort the good from the not so good and the downright bad.
 
If you are lucky enough to find an advance auto that still has them, they are on clearance. I bought a buch of the Meguiars accesory products at 50% off last week. I went to one of the stores with less traffic. They were sold out at the more popular ones. Once you see and feel the Meguiars terry towel you will see what these guys mean. It is completely different than anything at Wal-Mart.
 
Malachi71--If you live in New York, Autobarns have them. If you are lucky enough, a Target near you might still have them on clearance.
 
DavidB said:
As was pointed out, it is not okay to preface a condescending statement with “no offense intended, but…â€� to get around the No Bashing rule. We all deserve respect!
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And what is the rule about defending oneself against condecention? Or is that just a "judgement call" for you to make, depending on your personal agendae? Remember, David, respect starts at the top, and without a clear, thorough, and reasonable showing of such respect, the administrators and moderators cannot expect to see it displayed by the remainder of the membership. I know all about having hidden motives and such, but putting those aside I'd like for you to go back and examine exactly what happened with this thread to lead it down the road it traversed. I've been saying for a long time that I don't agree with the way this site is being run with such a "hands-off, everybody happy all the time, gotta be everyone's friend" fronting. It isn't reality. So, let's get back to reality. :thx



I agree that we all deserve respect, but clearly not all of us get it!
 
Malachi71 said:
So to make sure I'm clear on what to use for removing scratches and swirls, I have two options:



1. I should buy Megs Terry Cloth and use it for applying and removing polish



OR



2. I could use foam to apply the polish and MF to buff it off.



Is this correct?
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For the BEST results by hand, you'll want to stick with your #2. Foam to apply, MF to buff.



:wavey
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
And what is the rule about defending oneself against condecention? Or is that just a "judgement call" for you to make, depending on your personal agendae? Remember, David, respect starts at the top, and without a clear, thorough, and reasonable showing of such respect, the administrators and moderators cannot expect to see it displayed by the remainder of the membership. I know all about having hidden motives and such, but putting those aside I'd like for you to go back and examine exactly what happened with this thread to lead it down the road it traversed. I've been saying for a long time that I don't agree with the way this site is being run with such a "hands-off, everybody happy all the time, gotta be everyone's friend" fronting. It isn't reality. So, let's get back to reality. :thx



I agree that we all deserve respect, but clearly not all of us get it!
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Hmmm, let's see, I replied with something that disagreed with your "almighty" knowledge, and then you PMS'd and wrote an overbearing, arrogant, and condescending response that treated me as a n00b AND idiot. Was the :welcome at the end really necessary?! I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but with every post you convince me further that you are an immature, overly defensive jerk. You don't have to be "everyone's friend", but try to at least don't be "everyone's enemy", which you have become. In this case you are the one witholding respect.
 
Alright, enough already :nono



Autopia IS NOT a place for thread hijacking and discourteous personal exchanges. You know a lot better than that. :rules:



I suggest we either keep on topic, take the personal remarks to privacy, or move on altogehter.



Now, please return to discussing MFs, terries, and their availability or the thread will be locked.
 
Malachi71, if you're still deciding between options #1 and #2 search the subject, like "hand swirl removal" or "hand polishing applicator" or something like that. You'll find a lot of [albeit old] input from many people on the subject.
 
Mr. Clean said:
Brad B. an individual user's inability to control the tool really doesn't negate the overall effectiveness (or appropriateness) of that tool. I don't have a problem with the use of foam, but I'm sure that among "old school" (I don't really like that term, but it beats "old geezers" :D ) detailers you will find the cotton terry towel recommendation for this purpose (that of the original poster's) quite common.
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Sure, I totally understand your point and agree that a users inability to control any tool would not negate the overall effectiveness or appropriateness of that tool. But it can certainly have an influence on the desirability results.



BUT, better tools most often enhance the probable outcomes no matter who is using them. The "old school" may be able to manipulate and assess the condition of the terry towel just fine and get the same excellent results he has gotten for 20 years. I certainly have no issue with that.



The newbie will have less chance of error with foam and this "technology" can make up for a lot of user faults. (product distribution, surface psi, etc) So why not start the newbie, or any user, out with a product that will make his life easier? ;)



That's all I mean.
 
Brad B., Got your point, and at the peril of being redundant -- I noted that I didn't have a problem with foam apps. Assuming (always a dangerous action) the user is a newbie, you walk the tightrope of safe vs. effective. That would be concluding that the foam app is "safer" than 100% cotton terry, which if it is IMO it would be only marginally so. On the other hand I don't think (again, a dangerous proposition) that there is any question that the folded cotton towel is more effective at the defect correction, by hand. So do you put the "newbie" on the slow boat working with the foam app, where he/she may become discouraged or offer the option of working with the terry where results may (IMO, probably) yield at the least quicker and maybe even better results? Could this be an example of a conundrum? :nixweiss :)



Of course I prefer working with a foam pad on my PC :D , but that doesn't appear to be an option in the originating poster's situation. There is no need to limit yourself to a single tool for job, keeping your options open is always a prudent action. In this case, I hope Malachi71 or any *newbie* tries both options and determines for themselves what works best for them. I think his original question, which was regarding a specific product - not a question of do I use this tool or that tool, was eventually answered in spite of the fact that it took a while for him to receive it.
 
I guess the "safe vs. effective" conclusion is where we disagree. I just believe foam is a better balance is both.



I have dealt with this issue for many, many years and just never came to the same conclusions you have. That's ok, though. That's why everything is offered in more than one flavor. :p



If you have the right terry towels (important and tougher to come by than foam) and use them properly (I still stand by all my cautions on the properties of terry) then that is fantastic. Go for it.



It's good for people to read threads like this so they can discover the options and, as you mentioned, ultimitely everyone must decide for themselves.



Aint this a great country! :grinno:
 
Brad B. said:
I guess the "safe vs. effective" conclusion is where we disagree. I just believe foam is a better balance is both.
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There is always room for an "agree to disagree" conclusion. Both parties have clearly stated their reasoning and neither is swayed to the other side. And this is a situation where a compromise isn't required. :xyxthumbs



Brad B. said:
I have dealt with this issue for many, many years
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I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure you don't want to match year for year. I think I would best you easily :D



Brad B. said:
If you have the right terry towels (important and tougher to come by than foam) and use them properly (I still stand by all my cautions on the properties of terry) then that is fantastic. Go for it.
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Actually depending on your area, based on my experience quality toweling is not at all difficult to come by. They may not be cheap, but readily available. Caution (which really just means paying attention) is always in order no matter the tool wash, polish, buff etc. Any of them can and will contribute marring.



Brad B. said:
It's good for people to read threads like this so they can discover the options and, as you mentioned, ultimitely everyone must decide for themselves.
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Ain't it the truth :D
 
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