VM comparables?

The only time I have had AIO do odd things on plastic was on the Mattig grill in my VW. The grill is black and textured a bit and the AIO after a day or so showed a milky look which I had to use IA to remove.
 
I've used AIO on my windshield without any problems. I will say that you don't get the same durability if you use most windshield wiper fluids - the cleaners and alcohol will strip AIO (or VM) and SG fairly quickly.
 
Sounds like VM and AIO do the same type of job ..



Here is a question .. Would VM be ok under SG? I need to take out a swipe of swirls from my hood ( At car show last week nice dad says to son "Run your hand over the hood here and you can feel how smooth the paint is " and before i could stop him I had a nice swipe of swirls from the dust on a swirl free black hood).



I was going to have to buff it out anyway and redo the FMJ and was thinking why not put a few SG on the hood for winter. If VM will work under SG it could save me a step.
 
In a recent thread Corey Bit Spank said he put SG over VM and it failed in two weeks. SG doesn't do well over anything other than AIO or another layer of SG.
 
stevet said:
In a recent thread CoreyBitspank said he put SG over VM and it failed in two weeks. SG doesn't do well over anything other than AIO or another layer of SG.
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Agreed:up



VM is too oily for SG to bond properly, IMO.
 
Poorboy's PwC and Klasse AIO are the only products I have used that are about as versitile as Vanilla Moose. Of the three, I think VM has the wettest look.
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
Come to think of it, your right, AIO hasnt stained any trim i can recall. Is it actually advised for use on plastic or rubber ?
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yes - I use it on everything from windows, rubber plastic etc... except when very hot. in that case I use VM
 
Jesstzn said:
The only time I have had AIO do odd things on plastic was on the Mattig grill in my VW. The grill is black and textured a bit and the AIO after a day or so showed a milky look which I had to use IA to remove.
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That's interesting, shows you gotta take this "outside the box application" stuff on a case-by-case basis. I just used AIO on the lightly textured black plastic grill on my wife's A8, no problems at all. Just gotta see if it'll work for *you*, no way to know until you try it.
 
Accumulator said:
That's interesting, shows you gotta take this "outside the box application" stuff on a case-by-case basis. I just used AIO on the lightly textured black plastic grill on my wife's A8, no problems at all. Just gotta see if it'll work for *you*, no way to know until you try it.
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Just as an adder it did work just fine on the stock VW grill and some of the other under hood area plastic.



I'm not sure why it clouded like that and nothing else was ever on the grill to react with it .. the grill has also prolly 50 washings so I doubt there was some mfg residual on it.



I also use the AIO all the time on the black rubber/plastic around the windows without a problem. Matter of fact it works better and lasts longer than anything else in my arsenal in that application.
 
Jesstzn said:


I also use the AIO all the time on the black rubber/plastic around the windows without a problem. Matter of fact it works better and lasts longer than anything else in my arsenal in that application.
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Same here. Best thing I have used for trim around the windows. I also top it with SG.
 
are you guys comparing, VM to AIO? i just order VM, i though VM was a glaze type product? i have used AIO a few times, and it's a great product, however i find AIO to be a great cleaner with protection. AIO shows everything, doesn't VM conceal or fill? does VM contain any abbrasives or cleaners?
 
VM has very mild abrasives and cleaners. It will remove light defects. The whole name of VM is Vanilla Moose Wax Hand Glaze. It does contain wax, which is probably why it is so slick. You can use it as a one step in a pinch but it is better to top it.
 
This is funny that I'm just realizing this, but I remember about 8 or 9 years ago, AutoMagic had an identical product that they were playing with, and it never took off. My AM rep gave me a small sample bottle to try and I loved it. The funny part is it was *identical* to VM in every way, and they marketed it as a cleaner/wax with easy on/off. The only thing it lacked was durability.......hmmm sounds familiar. Anyway, no big deal. This just popped in my head, and thought I'd share it with you guys. Does anyone else remember this?
 
ok i'll be applying VM this weekend, does this sound right?

-pc

-polishing pad

-speed 5

-light pressure

-50%over laping passes

-medium arm speed



how do i know when the vm is done? also i heard some say that it stains rubber plastic, and some say it does not? the car i'm going to be doing has lots of rubber and plastic trim. (one of the reasons i ordered the product) around windows, across doors, sideskirts, ect.



any tips? thanks
 
I have never had a instance of staining with VM !

I would spread your product on a little slower speed or you may get some slinging, VM is rather thin.....
 
Just a quick Question, If VM is too slick for SG to bond, what the difference with EX-P or EX for that matter(The Hawaiian Punch)??

Is there bonding issues here too?
 
how aggressive are the polishing abrasives in vm? any comparisons to maguires polishes? less aggressive then #9 or say almost aggresive as #82. thanks



after appling vm, should i apply ex-p by hand? or should i apply ex-p by pc?
 
cheapshot said:
how aggressive are the polishing abrasives in vm? any comparisons to maguires polishes? less aggressive then #9 or say almost aggresive as #82. thanks



after appling vm, should i apply ex-p by hand? or should i apply ex-p by pc?
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It's pretty mild, I'd guess maybe a step below #9.



You can apply EX-P either way, the last time I used it I applied the first coat by hand with a foam applicator, the second coat I applied with a PC and finish pad (both applicator and pad lightly misted with distilled water). I felt I was able to apply a thinner coat using the PC.



EX-P x 2 (24 hours apart) over VM looks very, very nice!

http://www.autopia.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9190&papass=&sort=1
 
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