Victoria Concours Wax - My First Impressions

Dave KG said:
I cannot comment on durability yet, as the trialling of this for me personally is just beginning now...



But looks wise - yes, IMVHO this wax is better than 50/0 or Souveran. Souveran has long been one of my favourite waxes, but the Concours in my eyes outstrips it for the depth of the gloss it produces. Indeed, and again IMVHO, this wax punches straight into Zymol Destiny territory for it looks.
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One more question (I know this is going to sound dumb), but how does it smell? I cannot stand the smell of Souveran.
 
I am a huge VW fan, Concours is my goto wax. I have yet to find a better wax. It is far above sov.

Im glad you also liked concours, it is a great products. Nice pics and write up.
 
Yes you can apply the VW waxes with an applicator, but i truly believe you get a better finish by using your bare hands to apply the wax.



As David will tell you, when applied by hand, the wax mixture is in its proper concentration,straight out of the jar.When you use an applicator,the wax could be diluted slightly by absorbing the carrier solvent.



If you decide to apply with an applicator(foam), be sure to have several,and switch to a fresh one after every two or three panels.
 
I tried 3 coats over Pn. Sourveran. Sorry guys but it muted the reflectiveness and depth I was use to with PS. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE CLEANED THE PS OFF FIRST. It did leave a very very clean shine. And I do rate it up there with the top waxes. I'll have to try it with a polished clean surface to start. JMHO that is what this board is about.



Dave KG said:
I cannot comment on durability yet, as the trialling of this for me personally is just beginning now...



But looks wise - yes, IMVHO this wax is better than 50/0 or Souveran. Souveran has long been one of my favourite waxes, but the Concours in my eyes outstrips it for the depth of the gloss it produces. Indeed, and again IMVHO, this wax punches straight into Zymol Destiny territory for it looks.
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If you apply this wax by hand, as I have done many times over the years, you run the risk of marring a perfectly polished surface. It's really only noticable on dark colors, so I use a soft foam pad. Maybe I should try putting a glove on then applying it by hand??
 
DSVWGLI said:
If you apply this wax by hand, as I have done many times over the years, you run the risk of marring a perfectly polished surface. It's really only noticable on dark colors, so I use a soft foam pad. Maybe I should try putting a glove on then applying it by hand??
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Yikes! Do you thoroughly wash your hands before applying the wax? I'm constantly amazed at how soft paint/clearcoat is! It's marred by cotton and now by human skin! :shocked
 
First off, very nice results. VW is a very competitive brand. Its nice to see more good carnaubas in the market.



Secondly, you would be surprised in knowing that you can achieve a marr free finish with the careful application of a butie wax with your fingertips. With my wax I like to use latex gloves, as it saves me some clean-up time as opposed to my bare hands.



Nice looking results from this curiously potent brew!
 
superstring said:
Yikes! Do you thoroughly wash your hands before applying the wax? I'm constantly amazed at how soft paint/clearcoat is! It's marred by cotton and now by human skin! :shocked
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Yes, even the slightest roughness to your hands can mar some paint. I don't take that chance any more. Most people do not have perfectly polished paint so they have no idea these things can mar their paint. It's hard to see this light marring on moderate to heavily marred paint.
 
You can definitely tell with the hand paint method whether your efforts are producing mar marks. If you do not work in easy linear strokes, and if your hands are rough, you will produce marks (been there). If you decide to try playing it safe with gloves, then I would recommend either cotton (if you can find some...disposeable) or latex gloves. DO NOT use rubber or clear rubber gloves when you wax. They will leave the worst looking mar marks.



One has to take into consideration that the objective is to spread evenly and lightly. Do not attempt to "work in" wax to the surface. Doing this will also produce mar marks. The wax compound, when heated and soft, is non abrasive. Using the lightest spreading pressure possible, with the surface of your hands covered with either the wax compound and/ or with a non abrasive surface, can effectively apply the wax and give you a good spread and finish without leaving marks, even on the best polished surfaces.
 
MDRX8 said:
I tried 3 coats over Pn. Sourveran. Sorry guys but it muted the reflectiveness and depth I was use to with PS. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE CLEANED THE PS OFF FIRST. It did leave a very very clean shine. And I do rate it up there with the top waxes. I'll have to try it with a polished clean surface to start. JMHO that is what this board is about.
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I would definitely try again with that wax if you had bad results. That is one of the main reasons why I refuse to top lsp's with different lsp products. You can sometimes achieve good sheen with some sealants and other lsps, but I have found with the higher concentrated wax brands, that you could hurt your finish fidelity by combining different lsp formulas; I dare say even different formulas within the same company brand. It makes for interesting discoveries, despite being labor intensive and a bit expensive.
 
lbls1 said:
You can definitely tell with the hand paint method whether your efforts are producing mar marks. If you do not work in easy linear strokes, and if your hands are rough, you will produce marks (been there). If you decide to try playing it safe with gloves, then I would recommend either cotton (if you can find some...disposeable) or latex gloves. DO NOT use rubber or clear rubber gloves when you wax. They will leave the worst looking mar marks.



One has to take into consideration that the objective is to spread evenly and lightly. Do not attempt to "work in" wax to the surface. Doing this will also produce mar marks. The wax compound, when heated and soft, is non abrasive. Using the lightest spreading pressure possible, with the surface of your hands covered with either the wax compound and/ or with a non abrasive surface, can effectively apply the wax and give you a good spread and finish without leaving marks, even on the best polished surfaces.
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Next time I will try latex gloves for spreading the wax.
 
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