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sharpie

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Ok so I am going to be polishign my truck for the first time tomorrow, and I have a question about the proper way to avoid burning the paind due to to much heat. I know that you have to be carefull around edges and the areas that have creases in them but how do you polish close to those ares? I have a 2002 black S10 here is a link a another tread with pictures of my truck

http://www.detailcity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15418

So how do you pollis around the body lines around the wheel wels and lower rockers?
 
if u're using a pc, u have nothing to worry about. if im using a rotory, i just dont polish there and hit it with the pc.
 
joyriide1113 said:
if u're using a pc, u have nothing to worry about. if im using a rotory, i just dont polish there and hit it with the pc.
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If you still have any concerns, keep the PC moving.
 
FWIW, here are my tips.
1. Tape off all trimmings.
2. Take small areas.
3. Use slowers setting in sensitive areas.
4. Choose the finest pad and polishes possible for the task.
5. Think about every crevice.
6. Don't add too much pressure; instead take more time.
7. Keep the polisher moving to avoid heat build up.
8. Use enough polish.
9. Only polish when necessary.
 
PEI Detail said:
FWIW, here are my tips.
1. Tape off all trimmings.
2. Take small areas.
3. Use slowers setting in sensitive areas.
4. Choose the finest pad and polishes possible for the task.
5. Think about every crevice.
6. Don't add too much pressure; instead take more time.
7. Keep the polisher moving to avoid heat build up.
8. Use enough polish.
9. Only polish when necessary.
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that is probably the perfect description of the process. thanks pei.
 
Great info PEI! Thanks everyone for all the replies! :yourrock Im getting excited to start, so ill post pics when im done.
 
PEI Detail said:
FWIW, here are my tips.
1. Tape off all trimmings.
2. Take small areas.
3. Use slowers setting in sensitive areas.
4. Choose the finest pad and polishes possible for the task.
5. Think about every crevice.
6. Don't add too much pressure; instead take more time.
7. Keep the polisher moving to avoid heat build up.
8. Use enough polish.
9. Only polish when necessary.
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10. Clean your pad and panel all the time. Dirty pads=marring; dirty panels=scratches.
 
Ok sorry for kinda letting the thread die, but anyways here are some pictures of what I have been able to acomplish with my PC and poorboys SSR's and a bunch of reading (please keep in mind that this is my first attempt to ever use a PC, and that I realize I need to go over it again to remove some of the deeper scratches, also I was caught in a very nasty sand storm a few months after a bought the truck so there are chips from rocks everywhere**sigh**)

So here is the proccess I used:
1) Wash with NXT,GC mitt, 2 bucket method with grit guard's
2) Clayed with megs med clay and NXT QD as lube
3) poorboys SSR2.5 with LC orange pad x2 started @ speed 2, finished @ speed 5
4) poorboys SSR1 with LC white pad x1 speed 2, finish @ speed 5
5)Added a quick coat of Natty's Blue (ran out of time, spent 6 hours over 2 days polishing the truck as it was ALL that bad or worse)

I plan to go over it again with SSR1 and wite LC pad (polishing) I missed some areas over the door handles that were akward to get at. I will then do 2 coats of EX-P and then top with more Natty's :rockon

Thank you guys for all the tips, ANY comments welcome good or bad.

PS, will post full sun shots when I have fixed the spots over the door handles :wink:

EDIT: actually the last picture is without any Natty's, it was taken right after i wiped the SSR off (waxed after everythign was done)
 
So those pictures represent your using a PC for the first time? Congratulations....you are well on your way to the perfect shine. Just goes to show that if one takes their time things can happen for the good. Just think what will happen after you use the products with accumulated knowledge. The results will only get better. :cheers:
 
CBlakeNS said:
You can not burn your paint up with a pc right?
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In theory, ANY dual-action/random-orbital polisher will not be able to cause paint damage on its own. Now, if you were to drop the polisher on the car, that's another story :lmfao
 
Actually a PC can cause paint damage. Even though it is rare, it does happen. All it can take is a rough pad, abrasive polish, thin paint and too much time in a spot and boom theres a burn.

http://www.detailcity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15265&highlight=pc+burn

It's nothing to be too concerned about though as long as you keep it moving and make sure you aren't using too much abrasives for the paint to handle.

Sharpie- Congrats on the PC and the future details to come, it only gets better. Well you can't get too much better in that last picture, but you know what I mean
 
budman3 said:
Actually a PC can cause paint damage. Even though it is rare, it does happen. All it can take is a rough pad, abrasive polish, thin paint and too much time in a spot and boom theres a burn.

http://www.detailcity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15265&highlight=pc+burn

It's nothing to be too concerned about though as long as you keep it moving and make sure you aren't using too much abrasives for the paint to handle.

Sharpie- Congrats on the PC and the future details to come, it only gets better. Well you can't get too much better in that last picture, but you know what I mean
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:eek: wow... I've NEVER seen anything quite like that before. Interesting to keep in mind though. And that after I did a little "demonstration" to prove how safe the PC is!!

http://hahn-on-the.net/professional/detailing/pcdemo.wmv
 
One of the biggest mis informations in detailing IMO is that a PC can't damage paint. Besides being wrong it is total BS. How do you correct paint defects? You level the paint. How does paint get leveled? It gets abraded away down to the level of the defect and the defect is now gone. Pretty simple concept. So you are removing paint/clear coat when you do this. There is only so much clear coat to work with. How much depends on the car and area you are working on. PC's remove paint that is how they correct defects. Remove too much and you are SOL. Don't think this can happen? Get a cutting pad and a compound like SSR 3, 3M Perfect IT II or III Rubbing Compound, or something similar. Apply multiple applications on speed 6 with some pressure and see how many times it takes to hit base coat. I have seen it done several times. In fact I have seen it done by hand as well. Clear Coat is not in never ending supply. You can't act as if it is.
 
Anthony A said:
One of the biggest mis informations in detailing IMO is that a PC can't damage paint. Besides being wrong it is total BS. How do you correct paint defects? You level the paint. How does paint get leveled? It gets abraded away down to the level of the defect and the defect is now gone. Pretty simple concept. So you are removing paint/clear coat when you do this. There is only so much clear coat to work with. How much depends on the car and area you are working on. PC's remove paint that is how they correct defects. Remove too much and you are SOL. Don't think this can happen? Get a cutting pad and a compound like SSR 3, 3M Perfect IT II or III Rubbing Compound, or something similar. Apply multiple applications on speed 6 with some pressure and see how many times it takes to hit base coat. I have seen it done several times. In fact I have seen it done by hand as well. Clear Coat is not in never ending supply. You can't act as if it is.
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Now that makes the most sence!! I am concerned cuz my black lexus has no clear coat from what I have been told ,so I was wondering if I have normal swirls and minor scratches should I start with an orange pad ? I am planning on using menzerna polishes but I guess I should start out light as I can always get more aggressive correct? It's my first time.... :help: :wacko:
 
glen22 said:
Now that makes the most sence!! I am concerned cuz my black lexus has no clear coat from what I have been told ,so I was wondering if I have normal swirls and minor scratches should I start with an orange pad ? I am planning on using menzerna polishes but I guess I should start out light as I can always get more aggressive correct? It's my first time.... :help: :wacko:
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Always use the least abrasive method to get the results you want. If you can get the finish you want with a polishing pad and a mild polish than no sense using a cutting pad and a compound. Start out mild and move up if necessary.
 
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