UPDATE on Low cost Race Deck Floor

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cenwesi

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Quick update...so tonight i decided to lay one tile down to test. Cleaned up the section, peeled and placed the tile down. Moved the car in and turned the tire left & right. It did not move or bend. Here are some pictures..

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Again, if you lay THAT tile down in your garage, it will be the WORST mistake.



You're going to have a mess on your hands in the near future and it will be a giant headache to pull up each tile to throw in the garbage.



Re-read the responses on your other thread.



If you can't afford the proper tiling at the moment, save up for it. It'll be worth it's weight in gold if you do it the proper way.



Just looking out for you :up
 
Yeah dude. Seriously, stop thinking in terms of 'its cheap so it'll work' and think in terms of real practicality. That stuff will NOT last. Sure, you pulled a car on it a couple times. Give it a month or two, park on it right after you've driven in the rain, and you WILL be regetting it. I know I didn't respond to the first thread, but let me just say this:



1) The self stick isn't very strong bonding to concrete.

2) The tile material itself is cheap and will wear thru from hot tires, moisture/chemicals, etc.

3) You're putting them directly on a concrete garage floor. These floors inherently soak up moisture from dirt under that floor; these will seep right up to the top and cause the adhesive to release.



Not a good idea.
 
I too have to agreee with the others, peel n' stick is the last thing you want on your garage floor. It's simply not worth wasting your time laying because no matter how hard you try you will allows have ugly gaps between the tile in addition to having a very thin wear layer. Please for your own sake, reconsider.
 
What's the point in half-a$$ing it??? Just be patient, save a little more, and do your garage right. I personally can't stand "settling" for the cheaper alternative. If it's proven that there is a better alternative backed up by many personal opinions, why not just believe us???



None of us are trying to "put you down" so to speak and please do not take it that way. We are simply watching out for you. We all hope you reconsider.
 
LOL! This is starting to sound like an intervention.:D "Just Say No to Inexpensive Floor Tile."



(Though I do agree-the P&S tile is worthless if it gets wet at all & then if you have to take it up, it's a huge mess)
 
cenwesi, I will agree with 100% of the responders here and say DONT DO IT.. That tile doesnt even hold up indoors where the climate is controlled. Take back what you've already bought. You will be doing yourself a favor if you do.
 
Keep it coming guys, i like to hear both sides. I read the instruction on that package and they said it can be used for outdoor and some other places. Maybe i need to read it more. But i took this into consideration. This is an 18" x 18" not a 12" x 12". The surface area is big enough to withstand the amount or presure from my tires. Now i haven't done the tire heat test so i can't really conclude on that. As for water, i will use carpets on where the tires make contacts or use something else. Next, oil, break fluid and what not. I don't let either of my cars get to that level.
 
Both sides? Uh, you're hearing one side.



It's just that when you read a bunch of guys who have racing floors or experience with vinyl tile tell you what you're doing is a mistake and your experience is laying four tiles and turning your tires on it a couple of times - logic would dictate that you would side with reason.



I wish I had some ancient Chinese proverb here. I have a feeling it work real well in this case.



Whatever floats your boat :p



Good luck.
 
cenwesi said:
That is one tile and not 4 tiles (18" x 18")
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We're all familiar with the product -- the fact is you won't be happy, guaranteed.



The package may make claims of it being ok for outdoor, but keep this in mind -- that's the MANUFACTURER making that claim. They want you to buy their product, of course, so you have to take those claims with a grain of salt. We're speaking facts obtained from experience, here.
 
If you continue the test with the one tile, try taking it up before putting down the rest. If it's a major PITA to take up, then replacing worn tiles could be a nightmare....
 
Go ahead. Try it out. There a better then 99% chance it's not going to last 1-yr, let alone 10+ years but if you are determined to go that route, then so be it. They don't even work indoors in a kitchen or bathroom where the temperature is more maintained and abuse much less severe. How you expect them to hold up to the heat generated by tires, widely flucating temperatures, rain/snow/sand/dirt, oil, gas, chemicals etc is beyond me.



The good news is that once they do start to peel and the glue and dirt make a mess of the garage floor, you can always RaceDeck over it :-) .



Paco
 
paco said:
They don't even work indoors in a kitchen or bathroom where the temperature is more maintained and abuse much less severe. Paco
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I've had the adhesive tile in my wife's bathroom (without a vent) for close to four years with no problems what-so-ever. She can drain a 50 g water heater so it is steamy as He!! but they are holding up great. It's all in the surface prep and attention to detail as to how well they last and how good they look.



I do agree that a concrete floor is a different beast though. I think that the hardest thing for them to deal with will be the temperature changes withing the concrete itself from summer to winter.
 
You'll be Sorry!!!

I hate to say it but, I put those tiles down in a spare bathroom and in the past 2 years the glue that they use is seeping thru the gaps where they but up against each other from just walking on them. :wall I can't imagine what they will look like with tire traffic.

Please reconsider and hold out for a better product. :nono
 
It's not really the "wear" that it is going to effect these tiles, it is the moisture in the concrete and the unstable outdoor environment. That coupled with hot tires and I think you'll have a pretty big mess on your hands after a year.

It snows up in MD right? Salt, snow, etc... all coupled with the weight of the car is really going to stress these tiles. If you were to do this you would need to use a tile seam sealer to fill the cracks and eliminate moisture getting between the tiles.

Hot summer days will make your tires amazingly hot. Pulling onto the tiles with hot tires will stress and lead to delamination of the surface.



I also imagine that you have a frost issue in MD. In the spring the moisture from the frost will come up through the concrete and effect the adhesive. One or two cycles probably wont' be detrimental, but many cycles will lead to the product lifting. (edge picking)



I've struggled with the same stuff trying to cover my garage floor. I cheaped out once and ended up stripping it and starting over. I ended up with a pro-grade expoxy and have had no problems since. Save up a couple bux and get it done right.



Just as you would not use candle wax or ear wax to wax your car, it's probably not a wise idea to use these tiles for your garage.
 
Why not lay a few tiles in the area of each tire? Then give yourself 2 months of driving on it daily, parking with wet, dorty tires, etc and see how it holds up? It may hold up, or you may be glad you only laid a few tiles on the floor. But its a good test either way.
 
LightngSVT said:
Then give yourself 2 months of driving on it daily, parking with wet, dorty tires, etc and see how it holds up?
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Chuck, this post was from April 2005 and we haven't heard back. One can make an educated guess on how the experiment went if he did actually put the tiles down.
 
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