Barry Theal said:
Ok so this thread is getting interesting. Autopia.org is owned by 3D. I know that and so does everyone else. Yet we all can come here and talk about any product at any given time. I will use myself as as an example. Here some off the forum stuff! I'll let the cat out. First off, Since 3D has bought autopia.org. I first hand have gained a great friend from it. This guy is Tunch Goren the owner of 3D.
Tunch is a true gentleman. Just the other day, I was telling how, I like HD Uno, but its not my goto compound. Is HD Uno a nice product? Absolutely it is, but for my compounding methods its not. I prefer something a little heavier when Im doing a serious correction. Tunch says to me. Hey Barry what can we do to correct this. I said Tunch make me a compound that is truely a compound. He says ok. Im in Miami now, but when I get to LA, Ill make it happen.
Long story short. There are many detailers on this forum from highend pros to the everyday car guy looking to learn. Tunch looks at this place as feedback for him to better the business and make everyones lives easier. As a group in whole, we have a man and a team behind this forum who are open to suggestions. We should be taking advantage of this. Your not buying relabeled garage from him. Your buying direct from the manufactuer! If you don't like 3d/hd products you can ask on this forum about any other manufactuer and get a response of where to buy it and how to use it? Try that on autogeek! It won't happen. They will banned you on for that! Trust me. lol They sell a wax named after my business and I'm banned from there site for posting a picture of Garry Dean at the 3D after Party.
Autopia.org is a real open discussion forum that is full of knowledge and great people. Its a place Im proud to call my home away from home! Another great thing is! We also have sponsors like detailers domain who sells other products at great prices! Then there is that other really cool bald guy! Whats his name? ???? Oh yea that right. KEVIN BROWN the freaking man himself. The man who forever changed the industry with a DA. His vast knowledge is availible to all of us exclusively now as a sponsor! Did I mention he sells products as well. Gentleman autopia is growing fast. Hang on for the ride.
Barry, you always give me so much credit and respect online, which I truly appreciate.
I am in agreement with you in regards to Tunch. Although I know very little about him, upon spending several hours at the
3D Open House After Dinner Party last year, I went away
really liking and respecting the man. I hope for great things for him and his company.
Finally, while I understand why some guys are pretty riled up over things written in regards to Garry's points, I think it borders on ridiculous to tell a guy to essentially move on to another forum for injecting his point of view.
Are you kidding me? We're trying to build UP participation on autopia.org, not shoo guys away. AG is smoking every detailing forum out there, Facebook is garnering loads of attention (I use it often myself ), and newbies are afraid to post for fear of looking the fool.
Have the debate... stick up for a guy... defend your points if you must. Heck, an ear flicking and shoulder bump here and there is fine, once in awhile. If a guy is posting just to make trouble, he'll eventually be banned or leave on his own. Sometimes though, a guy that
seems to rile folks up ends up becoming a mainstay in our industry. Names, anyone?
I feel a bit out of place "soapboxing it" in regards to anything other than discussions about detailing, paint polishing, technique, etc. I just wonder if this thread would have spread like wildfire, were it not for the drama.
Anyway... it's good to see some involvement, but it would be great if it were mostly about machines, or technique, or helping a guy out of a jam, or something related to the "job".
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