So way back in July (14th to be exact) I prepped and sealed my trusty 04 VW Passat with Ultima PPP and PGP.
Just a single coat of PGP.
See this thread: http://autopia.org/forum/ultima/93679-2nd-full-detail-ultima.html
And also see this thread for some video of washing after PGP: http://autopia.org/forum/ultima/95078-ultima-test-video.html
This car lives outside 24x7, so gets what ever the weather throws at it.
It's done a few journeys to and from AZ since then, been baked in 110F + heat in Phoenix AZ for a week, done the usual commute into LA and back a gazillion times, been rained on, sprayed with sprinkler overspray and then finally last week, it got bird bombed! :grrr
So, in the interests of science, I let that poop sit on the roof of the car for a little over a week, and really bake on :wall
So here's the offending area.
Keys are shown to give an idea of scale
And here from another angle.
And here's a macro shot of the poop on the paint! First one to name the food source AND bird type gets a sad b@st@rd award :grinno: :grinno: :grinno:
Method of attack was:
5 min soak with fresh water
Shampoo with minimal agitation using wool mitt
Rinse with clean water
Dry with MF towel
As you can see, poopectomy was a success
Poop floated off when soaked, and did not stay attached to the paint despite being baked on in the CA sunshine.
Water spots and other crud also floated away with no issues.
Upon close inspection with the macro lens, and with the light just right, I could however still see this:
very slight change in surface gloss where the poop had been - hard to see unless you looked down the roof with a dark background as contrast.
I hit the area with QD and MF towel, and was left with this:
So after 13 weeks of exposure, the PGP is still showing signs of resilience, although the gloss is now fading, as is the sheeting ability.
I have another car (Boxster) with two coats applied - which appears to be keeping it's slickness longer (as you'd expect) - so I'm concluding that one coat is good for 3 months, but longer periods between applications are certainly possible with additional layers.
VW still has a very 'new' look when washed and dried, and the overall impression is very positive, especially given the harsh treatment.
And yes, my neighbors now think I'm insane, snapping away at bird poop on my car! :nana:
Chris.
Just a single coat of PGP.

See this thread: http://autopia.org/forum/ultima/93679-2nd-full-detail-ultima.html
And also see this thread for some video of washing after PGP: http://autopia.org/forum/ultima/95078-ultima-test-video.html
This car lives outside 24x7, so gets what ever the weather throws at it.
It's done a few journeys to and from AZ since then, been baked in 110F + heat in Phoenix AZ for a week, done the usual commute into LA and back a gazillion times, been rained on, sprayed with sprinkler overspray and then finally last week, it got bird bombed! :grrr
So, in the interests of science, I let that poop sit on the roof of the car for a little over a week, and really bake on :wall
So here's the offending area.

Keys are shown to give an idea of scale

And here from another angle.

And here's a macro shot of the poop on the paint! First one to name the food source AND bird type gets a sad b@st@rd award :grinno: :grinno: :grinno:
Method of attack was:

5 min soak with fresh water

Shampoo with minimal agitation using wool mitt

Rinse with clean water

Dry with MF towel
As you can see, poopectomy was a success
Poop floated off when soaked, and did not stay attached to the paint despite being baked on in the CA sunshine.
Water spots and other crud also floated away with no issues.
Upon close inspection with the macro lens, and with the light just right, I could however still see this:

very slight change in surface gloss where the poop had been - hard to see unless you looked down the roof with a dark background as contrast.
I hit the area with QD and MF towel, and was left with this:

So after 13 weeks of exposure, the PGP is still showing signs of resilience, although the gloss is now fading, as is the sheeting ability.
I have another car (Boxster) with two coats applied - which appears to be keeping it's slickness longer (as you'd expect) - so I'm concluding that one coat is good for 3 months, but longer periods between applications are certainly possible with additional layers.
VW still has a very 'new' look when washed and dried, and the overall impression is very positive, especially given the harsh treatment.
And yes, my neighbors now think I'm insane, snapping away at bird poop on my car! :nana:
Chris.