Trying to Revamp my Exterior-What I Have Used, What I Plan to Try Next

Ok, I did a little more research, and like steelwind mentioned above, M07 is a pure polish, and has no cleaning capabilities. It is like putting oils on your paint.



While that would give me a wet look, it sounds like the result M07 offers would not be as evident on a light color such as my Silver Metallic...I still have my receipt and may just return the M07.



With that said, I will be using Meguiar's Nxt Tech Wax 2.0 (What a Mouthful)...which does have some mild cleaners by the sound of it. What would be a good cleaner/polish to apply By Hand before the Nxt 2.0?



BobbyG brought these up a few posts back:

Finishing Polish – example Meguiar’s M205

Finishing Polish – example Menzerna Polish PO85RD



Does anyone know if either of those are good polishes to apply by hand that will work out well for me when followed by the Tech Wax 2.0?
 
Subirex09 said:
Ok, I did a little more research, and like steelwind mentioned above, M07 is a pure polish, and has no cleaning capabilities. It is like putting oils on your paint.



While that would give me a wet look, it sounds like the result M07 offers would not be as evident on a light color such as my Silver Metallic...I still have my receipt and may just return the M07.
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Yeah, return the M07, sorry if it's a hassle but you'll be happier with other stuff.

With that said, I will be using Meguiar's Nxt Tech Wax 2.0 (What a Mouthful)...which does have some mild cleaners by the sound of it. What would be a good cleaner/polish to apply By Hand before the Nxt 2.0?
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The cleaning ability of NXT is negligable and IMO basically nil.



Before the NXT, you could use Ultimate Compound (aggressive), Scratch-X v2.0 (much milder), or even just a cleaner-wax like Color-X (but don't get a regular Cleaner-wax, they aren't so good).



Or some kind of all-in-one product, maybe something from DuraGloss (sorry, don't know much about the line myself).



Or yeah, order up some 1Z Paint Polish or some Zaino all-in-one.

BobbyG brought these up a few posts back:

Finishing Polish – example Meguiar’s M205

Finishing Polish – example Menzerna Polish PO85RD



Does anyone know if either of those are good polishes to apply by hand that will work out well for me when followed by the Tech Wax 2.0?
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Those are both *VERY* gentle and might not do much of anything. By hand...eh, I doubt you'd see any huge benefit over something like the 1Z.

If you're gonna order online, and do it by hand, I'd go with the 1Z Paint Polish, at least as a "getting started with serious detailing" purchase. Buy the smaller can of it and see what you think.
 
Thanks everyone.



I do already have some Scratch X 2.0 which I have been using to get rid of fine scratches which has been working awesome, but I am intrigued by the 1z as more of a full car Polish.



I will see if the retail joints will allow me to return all the other stuff I have bought and decided I shouldn't use : ).
 
Tomorrow's the day.



What do you guys like to use to dry after washing and claying to avoid water spots, or shouldn't I worry because the polish will take care of any water spots?



For polishing I did order the 1z, and am sticking with the nxt tech wax 2.0.



Has anyone ever polished and waxed over touch up paint within a couple hours? It was raining today and I couldn't touch up but I defi itely will need to before polishing and waxing.
 
Subirex09 said:
Tomorrow's the day.



What do you guys like to use to dry after washing and claying to avoid water spots, or shouldn't I worry because the polish will take care of any water spots?
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I'd dry it so the waterspots don't complicate things (I can think of a scad of potential problems from them). Same way I dry after any wash, WWMFs and compressed air.

For polishing I did order the 1z, and am sticking with the nxt tech wax 2.0.
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I'd sure want something more durable than NXT on there, but OK...your call :nixweiss

Has anyone ever polished and waxed over touch up paint within a couple hours? It was raining today and I couldn't touch up but I defi itely will need to before polishing and waxing.
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I always let it dry for at least a few days, never tried waxing it after it's only "flashed". At the very least I'd expect it to be very sensitive to your polishing. I'd wait, simple as that..but I guess it's easy for me to say.
 
Word of the day...fail.



The washing and claying took like 6 hours and I didn't start until 11 this morning. The initial wash was about 90 minutes. The claying took forever. I had to clay each panel about 3 times before the clay was clean enough to move on. I was going to try to polish anyway but I only got the hood and front bumper done and lost my light and I don't have access to a lighted garage : (...so bummed.



Now that I will have to finish Saturday, what is a decent over the counter wax that you would recommend to use after the 1Z polish? I would order something but of course I am short on time at this point. I know the word on NXT 2.0 is that it doesn't last too long, but I was going to try it since I purchased it but I might as well use a more durable wax if I am only going to wax twice a year.
 
pictures would help us greatly sir =] but I mean, collinite/bfwd/fk1000p could be viable options in terms of wax--touch-up paint i believe you need a lot of time before it cures completely.. wow..washing took that long?lol geez =[
 
Alexshimshimhae said:
pictures would help us greatly sir =] but I mean, collinite/bfwd/fk1000p could be viable options in terms of wax--touch-up paint i believe you need a lot of time before it cures completely.. wow..washing took that long?lol geez =[
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Yeah, that wash was silly, my normal washes take an hour and a half to 2 hours, I like to go straight across all panels and then rinse and swirl soap on to the whole panel and rinse again hitting every single inch, and then all the little imperfections/bug/tar I try to work on just dump more time on which waxing was going to help in the future had I gotten that far, haha.



For the claying, I didn't feel confident that the panels were finished until I stopped seeing dirty residue on the clay, this took about three passes per panel and I was lubricating the panels with a fresh bucket of soapy water courtesy of Mothers CA Gold Car Wash, wish I went with a standard lube but I read a few posts that said lubing with your car wash was ok......but all of this is why I am wondering if I messed up, because now I think I have little scratches everywhere. Was it the way I lubed, was it the amount of passes with the clay, did I not knead the clay to a clean surface often enough, was it the pressure I used on the clay, so many potential first time mistakes.



I will take a better look in the daylight tomorrow and see what it looks like, if I can take some pics that come out well, I will gladly post those puppies up for some opinions on the marring or scratching.
 
After all of my fretting, I think it came out ok after the wash, clay, 1Z Polish, and one coat of Collinite 845. I was slightly disappointed because I thought it would be a bit more shiny and/or mirrory but maybe that was too much to expect for one coat of 845, not sure.



I am sure some of you could have done a lot better with a DAP but I will pick one of those up for next spring : ).



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Subirex09- I somehowl missed your earlier posts about the claying/etc., wonder why :think:



I bet it doesn't seem like a "FAIL!" any more and I bet it looks great in person. It looks fine in the pics and doing this stuff by hand really is a genuine limitation.



Several sorta-random thoughts follow:



-I too take forever to do most anything, but I think you coulda sped things up by doing a "super shampoo" with a decontamination system instead of spending that long claying. I spent less time than that doing that aspect of my lates beater-project, and I can *guarantee* you that I was dealing with something far worse than your car would ever be. Next time you're doing a "big, full detail", try washing with something like FK1119 as the first step, that'll get things a lot cleaner so you'll spend far less time claying.



-Make sure you really work work work the 1Z PP so it fully breaks down. Not saying you didn't, but if that happends it'll cost you a little gloss. At least you used something that was doable by hand, period!



-Glad you got the 845, very good choice! Might want to add another coat after the next wash.



What did you end up doing about the touchups?
 
Accumulator said:
Subirex09- I somehowl missed your earlier posts about the claying/etc., wonder why :think:



I bet it doesn't seem like a "FAIL!" any more and I bet it looks great in person. It looks fine in the pics and doing this stuff by hand really is a genuine limitation.



Several sorta-random thoughts follow:



-I too take forever to do most anything, but I think you coulda sped things up by doing a "super shampoo" with a decontamination system instead of spending that long claying. I spent less time than that doing that aspect of my lates beater-project, and I can *guarantee* you that I was dealing with something far worse than your car would ever be. Next time you're doing a "big, full detail", try washing with something like FK1119 as the first step, that'll get things a lot cleaner so you'll spend far less time claying.



-Make sure you really work work work the 1Z PP so it fully breaks down. Not saying you didn't, but if that happends it'll cost you a little gloss. At least you used something that was doable by hand, period!



-Glad you got the 845, very good choice! Might want to add another coat after the next wash.



What did you end up doing about the touchups?
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Thanks Accum, glad I am not the only one who takes forever on things.



I actually deleted and edited some of my earlier posts because I was freaking out and overanalyzing everything and I felt I was wasting a lot of forum space : ), so I am sorry about that. I had thought I marred my paint and left scratches everywhere with the clay but it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought...I think the first night what I saw in street lights was some clay residue as well as some swirl marks. When I rewashed Saturday, I didn't see any marring. There may be some swirl marks but I decided to worry about them in the spring. By that time I will have hopefully purchased a DAP.



The touch up I also decided to hold off on given my time and light limits. I don't have any terrible areas that need touching up, but there are a good amount of pebble nicks on the front bumper and the stock lip especially since it is closer to the ground.



As for the 1Z, I am pretty sure I didn't work it hard enough. I applied it in back and forth lines to the body, let it haze, and buffed it off lightly, but next time, provided I can still use the 1Z with a DAP, I am sure I will get more shine out of it.



The 845 was kind of a last minute purchase but I did read a heck of a lot of impressive reviews on it's durability and shine so I just went for it. I do kind of want to throw another coat of wax on it next wash, at least it won't be a 6 hour affair : ).



For spring, I will definitely also read up on the FK1119...anything that can save me some time would be awesome, I really liked what the claying did for the car and if a particular shampoo can quicken up the claying a little, I would love to clay at least twice a year.



Thanks for your responses, they are greatly appreciated.
 
Subirex09- Glad to help.



Yeah, the 1Z PP needs a bit of muscle behindit to break down fully. You could always just do one panel at a time next time now that the car is looking good (the before/after diff won't be too awfully dramatic).



Yeah, the 1Z PP works fine with a polisher. The Griot's one, with the Griot's polishing pad for the 1Z and the Griot's waxing pad for the 845, would be a simple yet effective way to get into machine polishing when you're ready to take the plunge.



Now that you did the big claying, I bet subsequent work like that will be a breeze.

Good call on delaying the touchups, at least IMO.
 
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