imported_Dave KG
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It was one of these days for the Menzerna polishes again - flashing instantly on spreding, clumping up, and just generally nor smoothly breaking down and being a nuiscance to get to finish properly...
So, on today's detail (will write it up when its completed tomorrow), I decided to revisit an old friend.
Meguiars #83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish.
On a Jaguar S-type with general swilrs and many RDS, I was needing a medium abrasive polish to remove the marks and ideally finish down LSP ready on its own without the need for following - knowing how well Menz can perform, I am now extremely fussy about the clarity of finishes - the finish has to be crystal sharp, the flake has to ping. The vast majority of the qulaity of the finish comes from the polishing stage, so for me, this *has* to be spot on, no question. When Menz plays up, it doesn't *feel* spot on even though it may look it, and the feeling of the rotary performance throughout the set does for me have a big impact on how happy I am with the resulting finish.
So, it was out with #83 today... Here's the paint before hand:

So, a line of product on the pad to get it started, and spread at 600rpm, then a couple of passes at 1200rpm and then for me up to 1800rpm. I find the steady breakdown of #83 to work better at this slightly higher speed personally. Mid set, the rotary gliding happily and easily and feeling great, me happy, and as you can see, the polish working nice and evenly:

After about four or five minutes at 1800rpm (yes, that long), the residue was nearly all gone, so reduce to 1200rpm for a couple of finishig passes - the residue nearly completely vanished:

What was left there buffed away with ease (unlike the fussy Menz residues when the product is playing up). The set certainly felt "right". The results:

Spot on under the gun! Very happy with the clarity of the finish, the flake was alive and the finsih looked crystal clear. I was happy, but the real test was genuine sunlight:


No hint of a hologram, and a finish that looked crystal sharp. I was very pleaqsed and all with great ease as well - no need for spritzing or mixing, just a polish which worked from start to finish and performed well.
On its day, when its on song, there's Menzern ceramiclear products are superb and they work so very well.... But when they go off, they are just a nightmare compared to other polishes - for me, the #83 ws just so easy to use, and has proven reliable in a wide variety of conditions. As a product to look too if the Menz plays up, or in fact just as a damn good polish that works well and performs well, Meguiars #83 is right up there with the best of them. Look out for more details by me using this polish now, as I reaffirmed my liking for it and confidence in it today. :thumb:
So, on today's detail (will write it up when its completed tomorrow), I decided to revisit an old friend.

On a Jaguar S-type with general swilrs and many RDS, I was needing a medium abrasive polish to remove the marks and ideally finish down LSP ready on its own without the need for following - knowing how well Menz can perform, I am now extremely fussy about the clarity of finishes - the finish has to be crystal sharp, the flake has to ping. The vast majority of the qulaity of the finish comes from the polishing stage, so for me, this *has* to be spot on, no question. When Menz plays up, it doesn't *feel* spot on even though it may look it, and the feeling of the rotary performance throughout the set does for me have a big impact on how happy I am with the resulting finish.
So, it was out with #83 today... Here's the paint before hand:

So, a line of product on the pad to get it started, and spread at 600rpm, then a couple of passes at 1200rpm and then for me up to 1800rpm. I find the steady breakdown of #83 to work better at this slightly higher speed personally. Mid set, the rotary gliding happily and easily and feeling great, me happy, and as you can see, the polish working nice and evenly:

After about four or five minutes at 1800rpm (yes, that long), the residue was nearly all gone, so reduce to 1200rpm for a couple of finishig passes - the residue nearly completely vanished:

What was left there buffed away with ease (unlike the fussy Menz residues when the product is playing up). The set certainly felt "right". The results:

Spot on under the gun! Very happy with the clarity of the finish, the flake was alive and the finsih looked crystal clear. I was happy, but the real test was genuine sunlight:


No hint of a hologram, and a finish that looked crystal sharp. I was very pleaqsed and all with great ease as well - no need for spritzing or mixing, just a polish which worked from start to finish and performed well.
On its day, when its on song, there's Menzern ceramiclear products are superb and they work so very well.... But when they go off, they are just a nightmare compared to other polishes - for me, the #83 ws just so easy to use, and has proven reliable in a wide variety of conditions. As a product to look too if the Menz plays up, or in fact just as a damn good polish that works well and performs well, Meguiars #83 is right up there with the best of them. Look out for more details by me using this polish now, as I reaffirmed my liking for it and confidence in it today. :thumb: