Tried Zymol

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thevolvoguy

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Well I finally got the nerve to order some Zymol. I picked it up today and tried it out on the Volvo. I like... I like it a lot.



I paid $45.00 total w/ tax for 8oz of Zymol Carbon. I would hesitate to say the glow and depth is as good as Souveran, and the mirror finish is there... but not like the Z that was on the car before. But overall it is easy to work with and seems like a promising product.



BTW: I would post pictures... but truthfully I lost my Digicam today. :mad:

I will eventually find it and post some. :wavey



Anyone else tried the Carbon and had good results? Or bad??
 
thevolvoguy:



I use Zymol Carbin a lot. It is a quality wax but does not give off a great shine. If you were impressed with the Carbon I suggest you try and get the Concours. The Concours produces an amazing shine. Did you apply a pre cleanser before applying the Zymol? Glad to see you liked it.
 
Hmmm...funny. That's what I expected it to be; not stunning, but better than TW...:o



BTW, you paid too much for the Carbon. You can find it at most online retailers for about $36. Oh well, live and learn...



And if you liked the results of Carbon, then you might REALLY like the look of their specialty 'Volvo' wax, which I think is the same price as the Carbon. It's just supposed to be specially formulated for Volvo's unique paint.



Marketing hype?? You be the judge...;)





:wavey
 
Drew, yeah I know I know.... I over paid but i bought it at a store so that way I wouldnt have to wait for shipping. Plus with S&H and Tax that $36 becomes about $41. Oh well 4 bucks down the drain. :wavey



TC- How much $ is the Concours? Would you be willing to trade for some? BTW: I didnt strip the Zaino on the car before I applied. It didnt change the gloss much as I said in my first post. Maybe next time I will strip and try it alone.



EDIT: Actually even though it seems like a good quality wax... I really don't think it was worth what I paid. It smells good though.:rolleyes:
 
T.C. said:
thevolvoguy:

If you were impressed with the Carbon I suggest you try and get the Concours. The Concours produces an amazing shine.
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T.C.:



I've got a couple of questions. I've always been a bit curious about the upper-end Zymol waxes.



1. On Autogeek.net, Concours is called a glaze. Why is that? Do I need to apply anything on top of it?



2. What kind of durability can I expect with this product?



3. Isn't it difficult to apply a thin layer with your hand?



4. How important is the final step where you wait 3-4 hours after waxing and buffing to give the car a final light buff?



5. I was planning to use this on a black bimmer. Is concours your recommendation or is there an even better product by Zymol (other than the famous $1,100 juice)? I'm looking for something to really knock my socks off.



Thanks.
 
thevolvoguy:



Well, the Concours lists for around $180 but you should be able to get it cheaper then that if you search enough. Sorry, but I am not interested in any trades at the moment. Strip the Zaino with a good precleanser and then apply the Zymol to see how it is on its own.



Intermezzo:



There is no need to apply anything on top of the Concours. I never do and have never had any problems with durability compared to a normal wax.



Durability- I usually get about a solid 3 months out of it before it is time to reapply. I also have my car garaged every night and wash about once every two weeks.



Application- I find it a bit more difficult to apply smoothly and as sparingly as a foam pad with a bare hand. It takes a getting used to but once you have it down, you are all set.



4 hour wait- This is actually a pretty important step. I once did not do this and regretted it for months. After you apply and buff off the residue, all the carnauba flakes come to the surface. When you go back out to buff them off you can actually see these little specs all over the car. They are very easy to buff off though.



Best wax- Well, I am not going to say it is the best wax. The concours will give you an amazing shine for the least amount of work when it comes to Zymol products. All of the ones above Concours are very hard to work with as their carnauba rating is off the charts. I use it on my jet black BMW 540i and a couple other high end cars (MB C32 amg, etc). The depth of color and shine are absolutely amazing. Take a look at my picture gallery in the detailing section on my site www.automotivespecialist.net . The Black C32 and my 540 are the only ones on the site with Concours I beleive. See what you think, if you have any more questions feel free to ask.
 
But overall it is easy to work with and seems like a promising product.>>>>>>>>

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Its even easier when using Zymol's "Microwipe" which they describe as a ultra light-weight, "rubber" (nylon+nytril) quad axial woven material.
 
T.C., Thanks for the info! You've really piqued my interest and now I've got a really tough decision to make. Should I plunk down another 120 bucks for another wax when I've already got enough to last me for several years? I'll probably decide by this weekend. You can be sure I won't be consulting my wife for help on this one! :D
 
T.C. said:




There is no need to apply anything on top of the Concours. I never do and have never had any problems with durability compared to a normal wax.





Best wax- Well, I am not going to say it is the best wax. The concours will give you an amazing shine for the least amount of work when it comes to Zymol products.
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Concours wax is just part of their high-end line, which is called 'Estate Glazes'. They're all waxes, not literal 'glazes'. No need to top it with anything.;)



I've heard that Blitz gives an almost identical shine to this wax.:xyxthumbs The price is just marketing hype(Zymol is very good at this hype:mad: )

As for durability, it isn't very good at all, shine-wise. The initial shine is very very good, but loses its luster very quickly.



Also, Souveran is supposed to produce an identical shine to Zymol 'Destiny', which costs even more than Concours.



Compare Concours to Blitz. You'll be very hard-pressed to find a noticeable difference(except in your wallet...lol!)



:wavey
 
Zymol products really want to be applied to a clean base first. It is important to clean the paint of prior products using HD-Cleanse prior to waxing.



The HD-Cleanse will remove all the waxes, silicones, etc as well as clean any oxidation on the paint. If this isn't done, the wax won't stick, and you'll have a product that won't last as long, protect as long, and shine as well it could



Once the surface is properly prepped with HD-Cleanse, then you can do maintenance waxes as you see fit. I have no problem with Zymol Fantasy lasting 3 months with lots of beading.



HD-Cleanse and clay I do annually.



HTH,

Harry.
 
One quick Zymol Carbon usage hint:



I keep a misting bottle filled with distilled water that I lightly mist and buff the entire car once I'm done with the "dry" buff. In other words, wax on. wax off, mist and microfiber dry. Removes any oily haze (if any) and imparts a really nice, deep shine.



I'm not confident using a QD products over real waxes, as I feel that it may be removing or adding to the wax finish (many QD products contain alcohol). BTW, Zymol carries a non-alcohol QD product...not sure of its name, but it's probably water-based.



Pure water--try it, you'll like it!



Aloha,

Keoni
 
TurboMan: I also wet down the car with water, dry and buff afterwards. It DOES make a difference.



Zymol's QD is called Field Glaze. From the bottle I have:



Contains 100% pur carnauba milk, cocomide, pure coconut essence oil, aloe vera and avocade oil in a triple-purified water base.



I've hardly use it. For me to touch up, might as well just wax.. it's faster for me. It must be refrigerated between uses.



Harry.
 
drewski59:



There is no way that Blitz gives off the same shine as the Zymol Concours. Have seen both and there is no comparison. Blitz is a quality carnauba that lasts a long time by carnauba standards, but it cannot compare with the Concours for depth and shine. The only wax that I have personally seen that comes close to the Concours is the Pinnacle Souvern(sp). I have never used the Pinnacle before but you have to realize that a jar of Zymol should last you about 20-30 applications if used correctly. So when it is all said and done, the per application cost is not that great (ok.. I should like a economist:( )



Intermezzo:



You can never have enough wax;) .
 
Well, I decided against purchasing the Concours for now. It was very difficult to justify purchasing a $120 can of wax when I already have six brands of wax and three brands of polymers in my closet. Furthermore, my Saturday session with Meguiar's Hand Polish + Blitz went so well, it's hard to imagine any wax being all that much better than Blitz.....and certainly not 8x better, which is how much more expensive Concours is. Blitz is just such a great wax and so easy to use. The stuff spreads very easily and wipes off with no effort at all. It smells great too (pralines 'n cream scent). Factor in its price and durability and I'd have to say that it's the all around best wax available.
 
$120 for concours!!!!



Why not got for the Pebble Beach Sample kit from Zymol? Has a sample sized jad or Destiny, Vintage (1,100 for the retail jar), and that other estate glaze. I think this retails for $180 or so right?



Once I get my vette, Zymol sample kit here I come (10 years hopefully.)



Jason
 
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