Training with Esoteric & others

NXTi is a must attend course for anyone in the paint correction field. The value, quality of attendees, and overall exclusivity makes the experience one of a kind. Also think working with better detailers than yourself is huge! Education is education, but minor tips or methods you can steal is amazing.
 
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Wow so much hate about Todd ... he must has done something bad to the folks here on autopia.
You guys must have your personal reason to react like this against Todd I guess.
Don't get me wrong, I am not judging anyone here ... I know all of you, I've been here for a while (even If I don't post much), I know what everyone is capable of (Bob, Chad, Bryan, David), but Todd is capable of achieving the same kind of quality work IMO.

He might have not as much experience than some experienced people of the detailing industry, but he definitely can achieve top notch results.
It's not like if he was a scammer or something.[/quote]
There has been no hate or negativity. Just suggestions about going to the people who have pretty much written the book.
 
take a page out of his marketing book and you will be ahead of the game


 


take a page out of his skill set and you will be ahead of the game


 


cant really see a reason why NOT to go to Todd to learn a few things...I've talked with him a lot in the past and he has no doubt helped me in more ways than one regarding business decisions...product, machine, coatings, marketing, etc.


 


Creating a detailing business is a lot more than just being able to work a polisher!
 
<span style="font-family:'comic sans ms', cursive;">Wow, haven't seen the gurls :wub: all worked up since somebody mention ....Zymol !!!!  AHHH THE GOOD OL DAYS :D
 
Those who have been around for a long time are in the know, that's all that needs to be said.
 
Envious Eric said:
take a page out of his marketing book and you will be ahead of the game


 


take a page out of his skill set and you will be ahead of the game


 


cant really see a reason why NOT to go to Todd to learn a few things...I've talked with him a lot in the past and he has no doubt helped me in more ways than one regarding business decisions...product, machine, coatings, marketing, etc.


 


Creating a detailing business is a lot more than just being able to work a polisher!


 


 


Eric remember you're Andy P situation?, the learning curve should have flattened after that. Quit looking for "The secret's" of the biz…………..and first be able to do it at a high level and charge fairly, then lastly present a image of being a pro to the client and everything will fall into place.
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2 things you need to keep in mind:



1) trainer to student ratio


2) does the trainer fit your style


 


1) trainer to student ratio: imo, there is a huge difference between training 1:1, 2:1, 3:1, and 4:1 as compared to 1:20 or 1:5. So although you may be paying a cheaper price for more 'advanced' training (whatever that is for you), you want to look at how much time will actually be focused on you


 


2) does the trainer fit your style: if you want to take a class for the sake of taking care of your own ride, then you really shouldn't take a class with Renny/Todd.. someone like Mike would be a much bitter fit cause you get to play with a bunch of tools/products and it isn't really business orientated.. and of course, vise versa 
 
if your looking for training there are many better options than the esoteric clown. meguiars classes are run by the top guys in the industry. contact kevin brown on here & see when the next event is scheduled for. oh and good luck! 
 
Andy Big A. .... You's slapping out 25 dolla hand washes within the best city  in the world ..and you have the balls to talk about Todd.... oh my :huh:
 
I feel sorry for you guys............no, not really. You see I have a wife that knows everything, and even though she doesn't do one thing to help me or get involved with ordering supplies - she "knows" more than I do about how I need to detail, just ask her.  She has sent some customers to me though so it aint all baloney and whipped cream.
 
JuneBug said:
I feel sorry for you guys............no, not really. You see I have a wife that knows everything, and even though she doesn't do one thing to help me or get involved with ordering supplies - she "knows" more than I do about how I need to detail, just ask her.  She has sent some customers to me though so it aint all baloney and whipped cream.
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LMAO! What???  :lol:
 
Thomas Dekany said:
Why all this hate towards Todd?
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That's the exact question I am asking myself since the beginning of this thread.


Like I mentioned before, I must have miss something over the past months/years ... because Todd was a well respected detailer when he used to be on autopia.
 
resek said:
That's the exact question I am asking myself since the beginning of this thread.


Like I mentioned before, I must have miss something over the past months/years ... because Todd was a well respected detailer when he used to be on autopia.
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It's some super secret ordeal that only a select few have the privilege of knowing :P
 
Like I said, those who've been around a long time are in the know. The reasons for the disapproval were brought into the open on Facebook about 2 years ago. There is no reason to go down that road again as the whole point was to let him know we were aware of what was going on. If you missed it, haven't caught on, then continue as you were.
 
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