Topping #7

shotime

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Just picked up some #7 and haven't used it before. Any suggestions? I'm getting ready to prep my Stang for shows.
What I plan on doing is:

SSR2
SSR1
PP
#7
UPP
EX
TS

I've also heard this is a PITA to remove, will microfiber cut it or should I get some terry towels?
 
I topped #7 with P21S and it looked outstanding on dark green metallic. I wiped it off with micros. I did a section at a time. Went over it with a micro just to get the haze off and moved on to another section. Once I completed the car this way I went back with another micro and wiped down the entire car. P21S was applied immediately afterwards. The car was brilliant. This was the 1st time I ever washed, clayed, polished,glazed and waxed a car. I was very satisfied with the look after spending 5 plus hours on it. Rick
 
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shotime said:
Just picked up some #7 and haven't used it before. Any suggestions? I'm getting ready to prep my Stang for shows.
What I plan on doing is:

SSR2
SSR1
PP
#7
UPP
EX
TS

I've also heard this is a PITA to remove, will microfiber cut it or should I get some terry towels?
#7 is a product that I have purchased, tried, and given away at least three times. For some reason, I can't seem to remove it without lots more effort than I am willing to put forth.

Two things about #7:
1. I don't think it is a product to use before a sealant. It has (I think) oils and fillers that may affect the sealant's bonding capabilities. Just my opinion.

2. Mike Phillips has posted a procedure for using #7 that is supposed to take care of the problem I had. You might want to do some searching for that post. I haven't tried his method since I had no interest in buying and giving away another bottle of the stuff. I'm just crazy, not stupid.

Charles
 
I think #7 is more for single stage paints. Megs has a newer glaze out that is geared more toward clear coated finishes. I'm sorry I can't remember but I think it's #81 or #82.
 
So it looks like I'm skipping the UPP and EX. I guess I'll just have to experiment with #7, and while I'm at it, buy some #81. For #81, would it be better using a foam applicator or a terry one?
 
I love #7, the trick is to use a very very thin coat, and wipe or buff it off after you apply it. Just wait for it to dry to a haze. If you use alot of it, its EXTREMELY hard to get off. Try to go as thin as you possibly can. I have great results with this now that I perfected my own way of doing it.
 
shotime, a few suggestions:

I would reverse the order...go SSR2, PP, then SSR1.
Pro Polish will give ultimate clarity, while SSR1 is more of a wet look. Therefore, you would essentailly be canceling out the effects of SSR1. As for the color on your Stang, I would go as wet as you can get it! SSR1 is similar to a glaze (not as wet), and I have started skipping my glazing step on most of my client details, however, I still use it on my own cars. I apply with a PC on a rather fast setting with a Meg's Finishing pad.

Honestly, I would probably skip the UPP step. #7 does have bonding issues, so my suggestion would be to go from 7 to EX, then TS. UPP, being a sealant, MIGHT have bonding issues, but when it comes to all that scientific stuff, none of us really know the truth.

The NEW AND IMPROVED method of removal on #7 works fantastic!! Charles, you should really give it antoher shot.

Trade Secret should be an excellent choice for a finishing touch!!

Good luck, and would love to see some pics when you finish!
 
Nickc0844 said:
The NEW AND IMPROVED method of removal on #7 works fantastic!! Charles, you should really give it antoher shot.
Probably, but right now I would prefer to have the UPP as my last step product on the van.
Here again, Klasse AIO for a cleaner prep seems to work good.
On my wife's Pontiac, I am experimenting with Poorboy's PwC and Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax for a combination. It too, seems to be a good combo. I'm not just sure where and how the #7 would fit in. NXT probably would not affect the #7, but the fact that NXT does have some cleaning ability might lessen the #7 results.
No matter. I'm going to save my money for more S&W. :D

Charles
 
I hear that some guys use IHG, which is something like #7 (I think) under Zaino, but you need to wash first to remove excess oils. Haven't tried it yet myself.
 
I don't like IHG as much as #7. It's easier to use, but #7 I think has a better look. I don't see why people would wash IHG to get rid of the oils, the whole point in using the product is for the oils, right?
 
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