Today's Detail: Black 06 760Li Needing Some Love (LOTS OF PICS)

I give up, I see your points but what I was trying to get across regarding the 760Li is why buy a nice car to not take care of it. If I wasn't able or inclined to detail them then I'd darn well make sure I had someline like Chris to take care of the fleet. End of discussion.
 
BaseSteala112 said:
Very nice work. Any idea what the customer does for a living?
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I dont know and dont want to ask. Simply out of customer service stand point. I mean I have conversations with him and the wife but I dont want to seem like Im nosey or question why they have so much money. Whatever it is maybe i can get a job there!
 
Ben Kenobi said:
Lightman, the point I was trying to get across was that it doesn't matter if you spend $5000 or $150,000 on something you take care of your property. You worked hard to earn the money to buy it why wouldn't you want it to last? If you are insinuating that I just keep my car in the garage to admire it's finish you'd be wrong. As for the cliche I don't think it's stupid as I see evidence of it time and time again here. I'm happy for your dad but don't you try to educate him on proper care? Hey, we all have busy lives, that's no excuse for poor car care. Your statement sounds a little elitist to me. :)
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My point is certainly not to make any personal statements toward you and meant no disrespect, but rather to provide more of a big picture perspective. I think we're all a little guilty around here of considering our values and choices to be 'proper'. While I know it frustrates some of us here who VALUE the perfect finish and car maintnenance(including myself), I think it's important to remember that we should not judge what we choose to value as 'proper' for everyone out there. My dad for example fully understands what I consider proper car care, and I fully respect his opinion that I'm nuts..it's a matter of life choice and priorities. To him (and many others, like the owners of the bmw etc I suspect) having a nice car is great, but he does not place a very high importance on his vehicle (regardless of price tag), or having it in show car condition. While some folks who place a high amount of importance on their vehicles and their maintenance may think this is 'more money than brains,' they are in fact imposing their values on his life choice. As long as the car looks 'pretty good' to him, and satisfies his other needs, he's happy, and other things in his life are far more important. "Hey, we all have busy lives, that's no excuse for poor car care" - I think this is an example of passing judgement based on your own values, even though they may be shared by the crowd here. What you consider poor car care I'm sure is different than many. To most poor car care is not changing your oil on time or doing proper maintenance....to autopians poor car care is driving it through a car wash, or even doing a one bucket wash ;) :chuckle:



Consider this - imagine how many people on a physical fitness/weightlifting web forum would cringe at our life choices..."how can they spend so much time perfecting the finish of their cars, and then go eat mcdonalds" ? They would make statements like hey we all have busy lives, but that's no excuse not to take proper care of your body with fitness and diet.... It's all about where and how you place your priorities/values.



My overall point was that I'm commending the owners of the bmw in that they're making SOME sort of effort to better take care of their cars...they're on the right track as far as I'm concerned. I'm sorry if you took offense Ben.
 
:eek: Such incredible depth!



It is a shame they let it get that bad, I hope you were well compensated for your work, I imagine you put in a really long day.



I have a customer with a black LX470 with heavy acid rain etching on all the horizontal panels and nothing I have tried makes any difference. Not sure how the Lexus ended up with it either, acid rain isn't a problem here in the Dallas area and they bought it new here. :nixweiss



Anyway, if you figure out how to remove it short of wetsanding, I'd appreciate a heads up. ;)
 
I can certainly understand the point that not everyone is as concerned about detail as we are.



BUT there's a certain line between being unconcerned about detail, and mistreating property. IMHO to have defects that bad on a car that new constitutes mistreatment of property. It has nothing to do with cars or detailing, it has to do with conspicious consumption. I mean, just run the thing through a carwash every week. That would be an improvement.



You know what my guess is? I bet they don't actually have as much money as they let on



Geat work by the way!
 
Scottwax said:
Anyway, if you figure out how to remove it short of wetsanding, I'd appreciate a heads up. ;)
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Maybe if I think happy thoughts it might help! lol After four attempts with the rotary and compounds, I can tell you that NOTHING short a wetsand would have gotten them out. I mean I have experience with sanding but the owners didnt want me to go through the hassle. The detail in and out took about 10 hours = sore and tired the next day.
 
a) your work is fantastic

b) how could somoene who owns a car like that let it go uncared for in such a fashion?

c) - OHC with a polishing pad . . . im curious why (not criticizing . . .)



- would the OHC cut more with a yellow pad . . I aks only because i have the optimum line . . . is the hi temp and powergloss more abrasive than the OHC?



also - did you like the results with FPII over the OP - which do you prefer ? Was it because of the type of paint . . ( i want to buy the menzurna line aswell . . so im trying to build knowledge first . .)
 
fdizzle said:
a) your work is fantastic

b) how could somoene who owns a car like that let it go uncared for in such a fashion?

c) - OHC with a polishing pad . . . im curious why (not criticizing . . .)



- would the OHC cut more with a yellow pad . . I aks only because i have the optimum line . . . is the hi temp and powergloss more abrasive than the OHC?



also - did you like the results with FPII over the OP - which do you prefer ? Was it because of the type of paint . . ( i want to buy the menzurna line aswell . . so im trying to build knowledge first . .)
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I used OHC with a Polishing pad on the vertical panels since they were not as bad as the horizontal panels. FYI..Rotary increases effectiveness of polishes a lot more than PC. Its almost like you can get the same cut with FPII and rotary as IP with PC. OHC with polishing pad just allowed me to get a finer finish. I feel OHC has just taaaad bit more cut then OC but not that much more.



I feel and that this is just my opinion, Hi-Temp has more cut but leaves a lot more marring left over then PG. PG just leaves very little marring and a better finish.



If I had to only choose one line of polish and I dont have to work in the sun (which i dont) I would choose Menzerna over Optimum. If I did have to work in the sun, optimum polishes are more sun friendly.



I love FPII so much I just ordered it in 32oz vs 16oz!
 
thanks man, i have yet to encounter a vehicle that bad, and it sounds like menzurna woul dnot be a bad thing to have on hand, kinda wnated it form the get go anyway. . . well now ill have both!!!
 
fdizzle said:
thanks man, i have yet to encounter a vehicle that bad, and it sounds like menzurna woul dnot be a bad thing to have on hand, kinda wnated it form the get go anyway. . . well now ill have both!!!
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Each line Menzerna and Optimum has its pros and cons. Of all the vehicles I have detailed you come across numerous kinds of paint hardness and different characteristics. Sometimes one polish from Menzerna does better then other times its vice-versa. I would say though for me at least I go to Menzerna 80% of the time specifically FPII. Hope I helped!
 
Chris: I finished the polishing portion of detailing a white 745 Li that had some surface scratching and ended up with a 3000 grit pad and a Snap-On air sander. That did the trick in short order, followed by 3m light compounding with a rotary at 1200 rpm.



This pic doesn't show the scratches well because white is awful for trying to capture the problem on camera.



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This pic is after finished 3000 + rotary work. I'm finishing up the car tomorrow with an AIO pass, then Wolfgang Sealant on a pc.



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Here I tried to capture some of the surface scratching on the hood. The trunk was in worse shape for some reason.



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I'll try to capture some better pics after I finish tomorrow afternoon.



Totoland Mach
 
Mach awesome job. I have wetsanding experience but I was still apprehensive about wetsanding a black 130k car that's only a year old. Under Halo Lights i can see the etching and pointed them out the owners but the owners said they arent really noticible and didnt mind them.
 
01bluecls said:
Mach awesome job. I have wetsanding experience but I was still apprehensive about wetsanding a black 130k car that's only a year old. Under Halo Lights i can see the etching and pointed them out the owners but the owners said they arent really noticible and didnt mind them.
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I was apprehensive, intimidated, and flat worried about wetsanding this car as I had ZERO experience in that process. The shop owner walked me through the process from sanding to compounding and said I did just fine. My experience is in final polishing and he even commented that the polishing is the best he's seen. His previous detailer was body shop oriented and did a great job on the sanding side and poorly on the final side.



It's definitely a learning process! But the results can be visually stunning when the car is finished.



I will be finishing it today with AIO + Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant and also do the interior.



Toto
 
That car is beautiful no matter if you take care of it or not. It is like flying First Class even to the grocery store.

Did you store any beers in the fridge in the back seat for after the detail? :spit:



Nice job and you are lucky to be able to get detail jobs like that!
 
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