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00GREENMACHINE

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I know on certain products you need to lightly mist water or QD on the pad. But doesn't make sense to do it on whatever you are using. Its practly impossible to load the entire pad with product. If the pad was dry and you bared down on the paint couldn't it cause swirls or worse?
 
IIRC one of the reasons that was given to lightly mist the pad was to help apply the product thinner. Also it will to keep the product towards the surface when just starting instead of absorbing into the pad.
 
00GREENMACHINE said:
I know on certain products you need to lightly mist water or QD on the pad. But doesn't make sense to do it on whatever you are using. Its practly impossible to load the entire pad with product. If the pad was dry and you bared down on the paint couldn't it cause swirls or worse?
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While I tend to agree with your logic, I usually follow the product manufacturers instructions. If they say dry pad, I start with a dry pad.
One thing I have read is that a water dampened pad will cause the pad/product combination to be slightly more aggressive. Not always what you want, but at times it might be of some benefit.:dunno

Charles
 
I just came back froma a detailing semilar. I learn that if you don't use water, the pad will catch the paint and it's hard to buff. Also if you put too much product it will do the same thing.
 
Misting seems to help me use less product when applying, because if the pad is dry I think I have a tendency to use more product to cover the pad so it feels less scratchy on the paint.
 
Just a thought.
Maybe we could get some of the manufacturers/distributors to give us their recommendations.
Not only if the pad should be misted, but misted with what.
We probably won't get much response from them on a week-end, but the next few days might have some information posted.

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
Just a thought.
Maybe we could get some of the manufacturers/distributors to give us their recommendations.
Not only if the pad should be misted, but misted with what.
We probably won't get much response from them on a week-end, but the next few days might have some information posted.

Charles
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for LSP's (spreading a product) it's good to mist a pad with water to help spread it thinner and absorb less into the pad....

for polishes (working in a product) I don't recommend misting a pad...as stated before it will make a product more aggressive and change it's chemical make-up. Water will make solvents dry up and cause some products not to work well. ie dust...
 
Poorboy said:
for LSP's (spreading a product) it's good to mist a pad with water to help spread it thinner and absorb less into the pad....

for polishes (working in a product) I don't recommend misting a pad...as stated before it will make a product more aggressive and change it's chemical make-up. Water will make solvents dry up and cause some products not to work well. ie dust...
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Steve: It sounds to me like you would recommend misting the pad with water when using one of your sealants as well as Natty's.

Your response is just what I was looking for. Your sealant products may be water compatible and obviously, you are the one to know.

UPP is a product that it is recommended to apply with a dry pad and I thought the reason was because it didn't work too well when it encounters water. I do think that misting the pad with UGE would probably be OK for UPP. Hopefully Dwayne can add his bit in here.

Charles
 
Charles the pad should be damp not wet...water or misting should only be to help prevent the product from saturating the pad and wasting product.
Yes i like to dampen the pad for EX-P , EX and Natty's...
 
Poorboy said:
Charles the pad should be damp not wet...water or misting should only be to help prevent the product from saturating the pad and wasting product.
Yes i like to dampen the pad for EX-P , EX and Natty's...
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what about the ssr lines? I would say yes.
What about PPP?
 
Poorboy said:
for LSP's (spreading a product) it's good to mist a pad with water to help spread it thinner and absorb less into the pad....

for polishes (SSR's)(working in a product) I don't recommend misting a pad...as stated before it will make a product more aggressive and change it's chemical make-up. Water will make solvents dry up and cause some products not to work well. ie dust...
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only LSP's unless a mfg recommends it;)
 
Poorboy said:
for LSP's (spreading a product) it's good to mist a pad with water to help spread it thinner and absorb less into the pad....

for polishes (working in a product) I don't recommend misting a pad...as stated before it will make a product more aggressive and change it's chemical make-up. Water will make solvents dry up and cause some products not to work well. ie dust...
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If you don't mist the pad with water, it's hard to buff and too much friction.
 
agentm said:
If you don't mist the pad with water, it's hard to buff and too much friction.
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Maybe it depends on the polish you are using. I have never misted my PC pads when polishing and have never had a problem with the polishes being too dry or hard to buff. Granted, I use mostly Poorboy's which are very user friendly. I guess it's all a personal preference, but I tend to follow the manufacturer directions on all of my products.
 
JaredPointer said:
I guess it's all a personal preference, but I tend to follow the manufacturer directions on all of my products.
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That pretty well sums up my thoughts.
If it works for you, that is really what matters.
By the same token if a product doesn't perform as advertised, you might want to take a look at how you are using it.

Charles
 
Just to add my 2 cents......

Steve's advise helped me out A LOT on the SSR line. Before trying SSR's, I pretty much always used Menzerna polishes.

For menzerna, I got my best results by doing the following:

1) Fill up a warm bucket of water & woolite
2) Wash out pad & spin dry, leaving the pad damp
3) Apply 3-4 pea sized beads on the pad.
4) Lightly mist the panel with water, then apply my polish by machine (usually cyclo or rotary with menzerna)
5) After every 1-2 panels, repeat the wash step to clean out my pad.

[size=+0]For SSR's, I use a dry light cut or polish pad. When the pad gets caked I change it with another clean dry pad vs. washing out my pad, doing a quick spin dry and continuing on. If I mist the panel or use a damp pad with SSR's I don't get the same results and I usually have to deal with dusting and marring from the pad.
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I just put EX-P+ on my daughter's car. I tried applying the EX-P+ on the car using a dry supersponge. Wasn't very easy. Then I dampened the supersponge and it made a signifacant difference. Much easier to apply and spread the sealant. Rick
 
rabbi said:
I just put EX-P+ on my daughter's car. I tried applying the EX-P+ on the car using a dry supersponge. Wasn't very easy. Then I dampened the supersponge and it made a signifacant difference. Much easier to apply and spread the sealant. Rick
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IIRC, the directions on the bottle state to apply using a dampened applicator. I too tried it with a dry app when I first recieved it....then I read the directions. Much, much easier.
 
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