Thoughts on these lights for my garage?

Since that is coming from Griot's I will bet that you can go to Lowe's or Home depot and get it almost half that price....or at least after shipping cost. For the price I would just stick with a fluorescents.
 
i got these from home depot, about $8 for each set, i got 4 for my 10x18ft garage...



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http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDU...ID=ccciadckjhmfhkjcgelceffdfgidgjj.0&MID=9876



you can see them in action in the background here:



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Quote: Thoughts on these lights for my garage?



~One mans opinion / observation~



We just completed successful a design/ remodel garage project using HID lighting (Griot’s) resulted in one design and two more remodels, I’m convinced you’ll be satisfied with this form of lighting.



Turborave: I understand the monetary aspect but comparing HID with florescent lighting is not a fair comparison





~Hope this helps~





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justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
but is the difference worth $180? to me it isnt, i can thing of a billion other things to spend that on than a HID for my garage.
 
My garage is 24x24. With 9 ft tall ceilings (one section near the back of the garage has 13ft ceiling). I currently have 3 incandescent fixtures (2 in the front, 1 in the rear). How many of the HID's would I need?



Thanks,

Joe
 
You guys who are relying on flourescents truly don't know what you're missing when it comes to swirl-spotting. I was astounded at the stuff I saw when I first used incandescents. FAR more unforgiving than even halogens, IMO.



My garage has 48 (!) 8' tubes and 8 4' ones. All cool white bulbs. But I still turn them off and use the 8 300w incandescents to spot swirls.



If *I* were building my garage TODAY, I'd get the halides, but high-wattage incandescents are an inexpensive alternative.



CRUZMISL- Get more than you think you need, and don't have them all switched together. Sometimes you'll see things better if you only have one or two on, sometimes ones that are NOT located directly over your work area. Lighting is sorta weird when it comes to swirl-spotting.



For general-illumination purposes, you'd still want as many as you can fit/afford. I honestly can't imagine somebody thinking they have garage lighting that's too bright.
 
CRUZMISL said:
My garage is 24x24. With 9 ft tall ceilings (one section near the back of the garage has 13ft ceiling). I currently have 3 incandescent fixtures (2 in the front, 1 in the rear). How many of the HID's would I need?



Thanks,

Joe



The HID's (metal halide) are awesome! I "think" I remember seeing them for about 100 at the home depot. You would need 2 max. Same thing they use to light the inside of coliseums and football fields. They take about 5 min to warm up.
 
I am thinking about placing two Metal Halides' in my garage. I have a two car garage. Do you think one lights on each side would be suffience?



Ron
 
TOGWT , since you have personally used these lights can you explain the differneces and advantages to flourescent lights. I have been thinking about using these lights in my garage remodel this year. Thanks for the help
 
Quote: TOGWT , since you have personally used these lights can you explain the differences and advantages to fluorescent lights. I have been thinking about using these lights in my garage remodel this year. Thanks for the help



~One mans opinion / observation~



Lighting is specified by colour temperature (degrees K) as well as Lumens (output) and a colour-rendering index (CRI 1-100)

HID lighting gives a ‘white’ light and a low CRI (3500K, 80) and is better for ‘general’ lighting.

A T12 fluorescent light (5000K, 90) is better for ‘spot’ lighting as it is closer to sunlight (6000K)



The ‘ideal’ detailing lighting would be a combination of both these lighting types (high level HID for each bay and wall mounted / potable T12 fluorescents)



The garage we designed /built was for a service/repair facility, hence the ‘general’ lighting.





~Hope this helps~





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justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
Help...



I need to light my garage for detailing purposes. At Meguiar's, we installed 6 metal halide lights with the intention of highlighting swirls and cobweb-effect.



To my disappointment, they don't do a very good job.



I was thinking about going to Lowe's for the fluorescents, but maybe I should go with some type of track lighting using incandescent light bulbs?



I want to see everything without breaking the bank.



Suggestions? :nixweiss



Mike
 
Quote: I was thinking about going to Lowe's for the fluorescents, but maybe I should go with some type of track lighting using incandescent light bulbs?





~One mans opinion / observation~



For detailing work it might be better going with CRI rating as opposed to Lumens (output)



COLOR RENDERING INDEX (CRI): A scale of the effect of a light source on the color appearance of an object compared to its color appearance under a reference light source. Expressed on a scale of 1 to 100, where 100 indicates no color shift. A low CRI rating suggests that the colors of objects will appear unnatural under that particular light source. CRI is a unit of measure that defines how well colours are rendered by different illumination conditions in comparison to a standard (i.e. a thermal radiator or daylight). CRI is calculated on a scale from 1-100 where a CRI of 100 would represent that all colour samples illuminated by a light source in question would appear to have the same colour as those same samples illuminated by a reference source. To put it another way, low CRI causes colours to appear washed out and perhaps even take on a different hue, and high CRI makes all colours look natural and vibrant

Some fluorescent tubes throw a quite accurately coloured light while others are absolutely ghastly, in an attempt to chart which are better than the others, they came up with a scale called the "Colour Rendering Index", with a score closer to 100 the better. Well that is the theory anyhow where it breaks down is they only compare tubes of the same colour temperature. A "F40T12/DX" (6500°K - CRI -84) is not a better colour than a "F40CW" (4100°K - CRI -62) because they're different colours they can't be compared by CRI, but a "F32T8/830" (3000°K - CRI -86) is a better colour than a "F32T8/730" (3000°K - CRI -78) seeing these two are the same colour (3000°K) they can be compared by CRI.





~Hope this helps~





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justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
So, from a lighting standpoint, putting the Metal halides in the garage would be advantageous. But I wonder what would happen if you put 4 in the garage.
 
Accumulator said:
You guys who are relying on flourescents truly don't know what you're missing when it comes to swirl-spotting. I was astounded at the stuff I saw when I first used incandescents. FAR more unforgiving than even halogens, IMO.



:up :up agreed.



It's the pits. I have some simple flood lights to illuminate outside my garage. It'll show every imperfection every time :mad:
 
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