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Alexshimshimhae

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After a long year of gimmicks, sub-par performing products and things of the like, there have been a number of products that really seems to shine; those "great" products however, are different for every person (for various reasons)



Though there are some that have a great disdain for those who "collect" products, perhaps those very people who need to try just about every product under the sun are those that come most in handy when it comes time to figuring out which is better.



But for those of us that can't for whatever reason, perhaps we can brain trust this and put it together.



Try to review as many products as you can (compare if possible) and if anyone has tried any of the newly released products, let us know (to the best of your knowledge) if it seems/does live up to the hype~!
 
In speaking of 105/205.

Though many have, and still do work with the Meg's twins on a regular basis, after having tried PO85RD, I must say, I may be converting over to Menzerna--at least in terms of polishes (debating if I want to pay to test out the heavier cut products)



M205 has definitely done well to help finish cars but I can't help but think that the PO85RD has helped finish down better when I worked on the Jet Black a few weeks back.

I'll have to play with combinations a bit because there is what I would think is a considerable 'cut' gap between 105 and PO85RD, but I think using the BTM may be what I need to have my new go-to combo 105/85RD.



Perhaps someone can fill me in on the nuances because as many has said, there's a place and time for each particular product--so I'm not ready to throw the 205 away (perhaps when their new system comes in though...)



Collinite:

Judgement is still out on the 476 and 915: In terms of durability I want to say that they are comparable. I haven't checked on how it holds up scientifically, but I would say it holds more in the 4-6 month range as compared to the 2-4 month of most other products(IMLE of course)

845 I still haven't tried yet but it seems that perhaps I should've tried it first. :shrugs: oh well.

I should mention that my pads seem to gum up a little more when I try to compound/polish within a few weeks of applying the 476 or 915

All in all, though I'm inclined to believe that in terms of durability and 'bang for buck' appeal, this would be my go to (then again I haven't tried a heck of a lot of products)

There are times that beading died out which upset me (when it first happened I felt cheated...). After an ONR wash when the beading didn't return (sometimes) I didn't reapply out of curiosity; as it turned out--the beading would eventually return, the dirt I assume keeps it from beading, and sometimes ( I can't explain it) the onr messes with beading, but it doesn't seem to have compromised the collinite



ONR

Many of you have tried this product, it's easy, it's efficient and it has so many versatile uses that this is likely a mainstay in my arsenal..though I admit, I should get into the habit of properly using it during washes (I still feel the need to rinse after I wash).



if anyone's curious about the following products I'll be happy to fill you in:

P21S Wheel Gel

P21S TAW

Meg's Hyper Dressing

303 Aerospace Protectant

Stoner's Invisible Glass

Stoner's Tarminator



Perceived Order of Cut(Though I DEFINITELY need to work on more cars to get a better feel for it)

M105

OHC

M205

OHP

PO85RD
 
The one product I added this year was Detailer's Pride Poli-Coat sealant. Really happy with it overall. Good durability and like it claims, very good resistance to harsh detergents and is anti-static. Still on the fence with Migliore waxes. I like the results but if it is under 70 or over 85 and humid, it can be a real pain to remove.
 
The one product I added last year was Blackfire Wet Diamond. I love using this sealant. It is easy to apply, wipes off just as easily and gives a nice deep carnuba like glow. I am not sure about durability but I am guessing 2-3 months.
 
optimum spray polish I am still playing around with not sure yet. I think my 205 workes better for me. Liquid natty blue this stuff is great it is a must have it will eaven remove some light tar. The sure buff pads r amazing the cut better than any thing iv used. I tried the purple wool foam I did not like them.
 
How does the wet diamond compare to the other product you used?



And I can't seem to be too excited about about the hyper compound/polish spray from optimum either. It should really come in handy when it's too sunny
 
Last year I spent a bunch of money on crap that didn't deliver, (re)tried a bunch of stuff everyone has forgotten about and a few new products. The one real standout was UNO, I really love the stuff. I also went back to Zaino after abandoning it a few years ago. While there is plenty of stuff that might look a bit better at first, it keeps looking good for a long time, even after multiple rains/washes. I fell in love with the looks of Poxy, but they just don't last. Autoglym HD was also a real surprise, very good looking and very durable.
 
Oh, and lastly, one of my new years resolutions is to not buy a single detailing product this year!
 
Optimum Spray Compound- *INFITITELY* more user-friendly than M105, not even close to comparable. But seems to have significantly less cut, more like a "super swirlmark remover" IMO, at least by Flex/Griot's (might be a different story via rotary).



sparklescarwash said:
optimum spray polish I am still playing around with not sure yet. I think my 205 workes better for me. .
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Could you elaborate on why M205 is better for you?
 
I'm starting to find myself interested in other products side from the Meg's twins but I haven't been too impressed with, optimum pair.. The hyper compound and polish seems to be less cut than 105 205 respectively..i definitely plan on testing it more thoroughly because out certainly does seem to be a bit more user friendly..



Thinking it would just be a matter of me having to adjust to using the product
 
Alexshimshimhae said:
I'm starting to find myself interested in other products side from the Meg's twins but I haven't been too impressed with, optimum pair.. The hyper compound and polish seems to be less cut than 105 205 respectively..i definitely plan on testing it more thoroughly because out certainly does seem to be a bit more user friendly..



Thinking it would just be a matter of me having to adjust to using the product
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For me, OHP has a lot more cut than 205, especially using a DA. On some paints, 105 works better, on others OHC does. No idea why the difference but I keep all four products on hand to handle a wide variety of paints.
 
Accumulator said:
Optimum Spray Compound- *INFITITELY* more user-friendly than M105, not even close to comparable. But seems to have significantly less cut, more like a "super swirlmark remover" IMO, at least by Flex/Griot's (might be a different story via rotary).







Could you elaborate on why M205 is better for you?
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The m 205 would cut better as far as spider webs or swirls
 
Scottwax said:
For me, OHP has a lot more cut than 205, especially using a DA. On some paints, 105 works better, on others OHC does. No idea why the difference but I keep all four products on hand to handle a wide variety of paints.
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I suspect that the temperatures that I was working with the OHP had something to do with my preliminary findings, but I'm kind of glad you chimed in (as I find your respective opinion valuable and fairly reasonable to rely on) because I couldn't help shake the feeling that something wasn't right in terms of the way I was using it or something...

I also got the feeling that it may have something to do with the oils (or possibly lack there of) in OHP? Something about it just felt different when I used it..can't really put my finger on what though...
 
Black Fire Wet Diamond and FK1000p.



The first difference I see is that Wet Diamond removes easier.

FK1000p seems to be more durable over the last year of use as the car I have with it sits outside all day.



I use both products on my own cars
 
jdoria said:
Black Fire Wet Diamond and FK1000p.



The first difference I see is that Wet Diamond removes easier.

FK1000p seems to be more durable over the last year of use as the car I have with it sits outside all day.



I use both products on my own cars
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Those are two products I'm still interested in trying can you tell new anything else?
 
I am a firm believer in find what works and performs for you, and stick with it. I have tried so many products over the years. Currently, I have settled on a few which consistently perform for me. Hi-Temp levelers, which do not get much PR here, work excellent. The ones I use the most are Heavy Cut Leveler and Light Cut Leveler. In addition, Stoner's AIO Polish and Seal and their pure Polymer Sealant are fantastic performers. These products I mentioned are also very cost effective, which is obviously a concern if you are a professional.
 
Accumulator said:
Optimum Spray Compound- *INFITITELY* more user-friendly than M105, not even close to comparable. But seems to have significantly less cut, more like a "super swirlmark remover" IMO, at least by Flex/Griot's
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Agreed. FWIW, I use a Flex 3401.
 
Buy the both of them, you wont be sorry.



I've been using this for over 2 years now. FK1000p looks as good as anything I've tried. The beads are nice, the car washes clean easily. The only issue I have experienced was a bit of dried product being difficult to remove. I apply it with a blue 5.5" pad on the PC. My last Volvo had 3 coats that lasted the full year I owned it. The car remained outside. I have it on my LR4 for about a month now.



I applied it on a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, Maserati Quattroporte S, Ferrari 458, anda a Range Rover HSE that I see regularly. Owner comments how easily the rain water drips off the car once he drives. That CGT in my avatar has FK1000p on it.



I just got into Blackfire Wet Diamond. Easy application, easy removal, glossy, deep, etc. Beads are nice, not sure on the durability yet. I have this on my XC90 which is in the garage. Im not reapplying anything to that car except whatever is in ONR until April. Ill update then.
 
sparklescarwash said:
The m 205 would cut better as far as spider webs or swirls
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-AND-



Scottwax said:
For me, OHP has a lot more cut than 205, especially using a DA.
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Hmmm.... :think:



I'm not after any corrective ability with this level of polish (just finishing out with no hassles), but it's interesting that opinions/experiences differ like that.
 
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