Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...

atbalfour said:
Those sound like two fundamental complaints to me. Each to their own but to me I don`t get the point of durability if it`s not a super shiny, hydrophobic coating with great self cleaning?

Yeah there are other attributes to a coating but we`re interested enough in LSP performance to be on here discussing it !!

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I didn`t say it wasn`t shiny or hydrophobic, just that there are other products that excel here. It definitely outperforms a sealant.
 
I usually produce a rant against glosscoat and it turns into a rambling post. I will save everyone from reading it.

Thats good that it last the two winters though.
 
Ethos Graphene Matrix after sitting in cup for a week. Probably not indicative of fresh coating curing; bought in August 2020, opened and applied October 2020. Has sat on shelf since then as I watched the rGO settle out...shook up and poured in cup 6 or 7 days ago. Has the texture and behavior of a thin sheet of candle wax; note overly flexible, just cracks when bent a bit. :shrug: Interesting how the bottom layer is pitch black I guess.
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Finished the last of this Winters new trucks/rolling test panels with Shine Supply Beadlock Pro.

It`s nice as far as application, somewhat slick an hour or 2 after application but nothing crazy. Very brilliantly glossy, a bit sharper than The Gloss Shop Titan, a bit lighter than NV Nova Evo, slightly brighter than Kamikaze ISM 2.0. I watched Mike G`s application video ( https://youtu.be/d4nUYjG6VKo ) before starting and it pretty much mirrored my experience. The 2nd coat left a bit of light haze in spots, easily removed (either immediately or when noticed later) but something i hadda watch for. For 2 coats on the windowless E250 Transit van, used about 40ml of the 100ml bottle using 3x5 thin coating-saver applicator. I used Shine Supply`s Throw Back panel wipe for the final prep wipe before coating. It was slightly foamy when the drops hit the panel but did nicely, easy to use heavily w a Platinum Pluffle. The coating had a slightly ammonia-ish smell to it; not overwhelmingly offensive by any means but occasionally noticeable.

Will do the voluminous black plastic trim with 2 coats as well; Shine Supply notes 2 are best on this as the plastic absorbs the first coat a bit and the limited bit of trim I did confirmed this approach.

I snatched the Shine Supply stuff during their Black Friday sale, 15% off so $163.20 shipped for 100ml of coating, 16oz of prep spray...plenty to do 2 of these rather large vehicles so pretty economical actually.

2 layers of Beadlock vs single layers of the Evo, Titan & ISM 2.0 that were this years other choices.

Of the 4 this Winter, EVO & ISM 2.0 were favorites for application and initial looks but the Beadlock and Titan are certainly no slouches in the asthetic sense, all are very nice and slightly different to my eye. I guess it depends on what exactly one is looking for as far as the nuances in gloss go, something that (to me anyway) goes beyond judgements of gloss based solely on metered measurements.

Some very nice coatings this year; I hope they do well...we`ll see as the year progresses and the vehicles accumulate miles in the real world.
 
atbalfour said:
Not tempted by SiC budget?
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Last year I went with Gyeon CanCoat but this year I want a full coating with slickness being one of the main things I want over and above solid protection. At this point, I’m leaning towards a coat of CQuartz UK 3.0 with a coat of CQuartz SiC. So I’d definitely be interested in some testing of the combo, I’d even buy it and ship it to be added to the mix.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
It was originally on the list, partly cuz i wanted to use Essence again. Some others here were trying it so figr`d a I`d add a little variety w the NV Nova instead.
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I understand completely and appreciate all that you’ve shared since you stopped messing around with coatings. :D But seriously, the only thing the others don’t have that are working with SiC is your experience with all of the other coatings you’ve worked with and the way you share your findings. If you change your mind and decide to try SiC over UK 3.0, let me know and I’ll order you 30 or 50 ml of each.

And I also appreciate the many that are sharing their experiences such as Coatings=Crack and The Guz and many others. I really value the opinions here more than other places and I haven’t seen any real SiC (over UK 3.0) reviews on Autopia, which I hope changes soon. Then again, I also understand why a 6 min coating flash time isn’t necessarily on the list for many.
 
dgage said:
I understand completely and appreciate all that you’ve shared since you stopped messing around with coatings. :D But seriously, the only thing the others don’t have that are working with SiC is your experience with all of the other coatings you’ve worked with and the way you share your findings. If you change your mind and decide to try SiC over UK 3.0, let me know and I’ll order you 30 or 50 ml of each.

And I also appreciate the many that are sharing their experiences such as Coatings=Crack and The Guz and many others. I really value the opinions here more than other places and I haven’t seen any real SiC (over UK 3.0) reviews on Autopia, which I hope changes soon. Then again, I also understand why a 6 min coating flash time isn’t necessarily on the list for many.
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For me with its slickness and look (based on car crafts video) it`s the most exciting coating to come out in a while.

I`ve bought it already and can`t wait to see how it performs.

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dgage said:
I understand completely and appreciate all that you’ve shared since you stopped messing around with coatings. :D But seriously, the only thing the others don’t have that are working with SiC is your experience with all of the other coatings you’ve worked with and the way you share your findings. If you change your mind and decide to try SiC over UK 3.0, let me know and I’ll order you 30 or 50 ml of each.
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Appreciate the offer, very cool of you.

Unfortunately for the forseeable future, i won`t have any time to give it a try. Had to squeeze in the Shine Suppy coating last week as soon I`ll be having to sadly do actual work at work as the pool season is starting this week.

Will be losing my workspace (and the willingness of management to allow me to indulge my complimentary interests) when there is actual `work` to be done and early buy deliveries of seasonal supplies (22 tons of salt, 30 tons of other chemicals, etc) will be taking up every inch of warehouse.

Seasonal businesses are kinda flexible out of season but once season starts, absolute lunacy from Mid-March thru 4th of July. The vehicle that will receive most of my attention will soon be a greasy old towmotor

I`ll be watching any SiC experiences with interest as they come to pass but aside from shepherding the Cayman project and being a pest to the folks doing it, likely outta the `detailing game` for a bit.
 
As always an enjoyable read and thread!

Evo might be one of the few detailing products that live up to the hype that comes along with the product. I have yet to see or hear any disgruntled users or bad experiences.
 
William_Wallace said:
As always an enjoyable read and thread!

Evo might be one of the few detailing products that live up to the hype that comes along with the product. I have yet to see or hear any disgruntled users or bad experiences.
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We`ll see how it does going forward; there`s been a few in the past that came outta the gate strong but kinda faded after a few months.

May as well see how this one (Beadlock Pro) cures. The one thing the cups have shown with some is that true curing takes more than a week. The EVO was quite flexible after a week but but really hardened up into a pretty rigid plastic-like consistency after the 2nd week.

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And every once in a while things fall into place and some relatively clean vans gather clos enough to get in a single pic; this kinda stuff is really entertaining for me in the midst of a really rainy spell:

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How would Cancoat be for wheels? I coated my Summer wheels with C5 last March but I`m replacing one because it got badly bent by a pothole. There is enough leftover C5 to coat the new wheel but it`ll have been opened almost a year ago and it has not solidified.

It`s not as if another 15ml of C5 is breaking the bank, but since I have fresh Cancoat on hand, other than longevity compared to C5, it should work totally fine. I swap between Summer and Winter wheels so I could always reapply Cancoat next Spring on the one wheel if it appears to have worn off.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
likely outta the `detailing game` for a bit.
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Where have we heard this before haha. Oh wait wasn`t this what started this thread.

Gridlink said:
How would Cancoat be for wheels? I coated my Summer wheels with C5 last March but I`m replacing one because it got badly bent by a pothole. There is enough leftover C5 to coat the new wheel but it`ll have been opened almost a year ago and it has not solidified.

It`s not as if another 15ml of C5 is breaking the bank, but since I have fresh Cancoat on hand, other than longevity compared to C5, it should work totally fine. I swap between Summer and Winter wheels so I could always reapply Cancoat next Spring on the one wheel if it appears to have worn off.
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CanCoat will do fine. It may not last long but it is still a good option. Add a couple coats and maintain it and you will be just fine. I have a 2 year old bottle of C5 and it never solidified even though I opened it and has been sitting on my shelf with the cap tight. Who knows if it is truly affected in performance as I don`t plan to use it.
 
Gridlink said:
How would Cancoat be for wheels? I coated my Summer wheels with C5 last March but I`m replacing one because it got badly bent by a pothole. There is enough leftover C5 to coat the new wheel but it`ll have been opened almost a year ago and it has not solidified.

It`s not as if another 15ml of C5 is breaking the bank, but since I have fresh Cancoat on hand, other than longevity compared to C5, it should work totally fine. I swap between Summer and Winter wheels so I could always reapply Cancoat next Spring on the one wheel if it appears to have worn off.
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I have Cancoat as a topper on my wife’s SUV wheels (coated with PBL Wheel). It appears that Cancoat lasted from Northeast May into the beginning of winter (late November) before I applied another coat of Cancoat. The beading of Cancoat wheels is different than PBL, which is why I believe it was still present in November. I can’t speak much for the winter coat because that car has been used seldom this winter.

In addition, I layered 2 coats of PBL Wheel and two more coats of Cancoat on my Bimmer winter wheels in November-ish. That car has been our winter beast this year and I only cleaned the wheels 1 time all winter. Lots of caked-on salt and dirt plus the usual German brake dust. I washed the wheels today (2nd time since November) and they looked and showed performance as good as new, and it was definitely Cancoat beading. This is only 3 months but it was a torturous 3 months.

So I know being used as a topper isn’t the same as standalone, but overall I was impressed with Cancoat on wheels. I won’t hesitate to use as a topper again in winter time.
 
Saw fireball open up us store that’s cool there making the effort. they have some interesting marketing pitch using 5 different kinds of SIO2 & TIO2. I wrote them off as another tac clone guess I was alittle off with that assumption. But then again I used to think Subarus were from Australia because of a commercial with one of their cars driving through the outback.. Doka Do being there big dog. Maybe some day.

once spring rolls around I plan on giving 3D, poorboys, duragloss tops/base and evo a go and maybe one of gloss shop coating try to go with home cooked coatings for the most part.
 
William_Wallace said:
Saw fireball open up us store that’s cool there making the effort. they have some interesting marketing pitch using 5 different kinds of SIO2 & TIO2. I wrote them off as another tac clone guess I was alittle off with that assumption. But then again I used to think Subarus were from Australia because of a commercial with one of their cars driving through the outback.. Doka Do being there big dog. Maybe some day.

once spring rolls around I plan on giving 3D, poorboys, duragloss tops/base and evo a go and maybe one of gloss shop coating try to go with home cooked coatings for the most part.
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You saw fireball us a while ago but all coatings are pro install only and only one sio2?topper.

I can get their other offerings from Gyeon or CarPro..


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