The unofficial PwS v3 review/input thread

I'm considering using it on top of what I did to my car last weekend. The finish on the bimmer is slick as glass right now, but man... I just can't get over how slick PwS left my friend's vehicle that I did Sunday. I wanna put it on, and then top it with EX-P the following day...mwhwahahahaha :)
 
I'm one of the people that was campaigning for PwS version 1 (the orange colored version) to be released. That version was just about perfect for my well maintained personal vehicles, but Steve wanted a product that would be able to handle cars that were in a little rougher shape too. I was worried that a stronger product would be too aggressive for my paint, but it looks like Steve's chemist has come out with a versatile formula that can handle everything from a dainty garage queen finish to daily drivers with moderate paint defects. The slickness is indeed very impressive as well. I'm glad Steve made me wait for version 3! :)
 
I can't wait to try it as a finishing polish for when I've used SSR2.5 to clean up some more serious defects. If I could skip SSR1... oh man. That would save me a step on customers cars.
 
zilla said:
I'm considering using it on top of what I did to my car last weekend. The finish on the bimmer is slick as glass right now, but man... I just can't get over how slick PwS left my friend's vehicle that I did Sunday. I wanna put it on, and then top it with EX-P the following day...mwhwahahahaha :)
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So if you can use this as a topper, wouldn't it remove whatever is underneath?
 
derek37 said:
So if you can use this as a topper, wouldn't it remove whatever is underneath?
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Depending on how it is applied, will determine how much it will remove.
For example..if you use a finishing pad and spead it at a speed of 1-2 and then buff it off, it will remove very little. If you apply it with a polishing pad or cutting pad with a speed of 4-6 then it will remove everything on the surface. :)
 
derek37 said:
So if you can use this as a topper, wouldn't it remove whatever is underneath?
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Sure it will. In my case, there is one coat of EX-P. If the PwS looks as good on my car as it did on the car I worked on Sunday, I may just leave off the EX-P. Or I'll just add it a week or two later... you never know :)
 
My 2nd round of testing is done :).

Since I didn't get to play around with pad combinations last time that's what I did today. I went into the garage with LC finishing, polishing, light cut green and light cut orange pads, the PC and a Rotary. I only ended up using the polishing pad and cutting pads. I 'primed' the pad with the product itself with the PC on the door on my Jeep. Once I felt the pad was primed, I switched it over to the rotary. I did the same with the cutting pad on the opposite side.

Pictures:
Polishing pad side before:
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After:
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Cutting pad side before:
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After:
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I can't believe how well it worked. There was zero dust, the product never dried up, the finish looks great and is unbelievably slick. No holograms or anything either! Granted the paint on the Jeep is crap, the results are great. The pictures show the difference but actually working with the product you'll understand that the results are much greater. PwS would be ideal for quick wash and waxes because it'll remove water spots and swirls while adding the sealant... all at the same time. While typing up this up I went over the hood again with the PC and polishing pad to get the tight spots and I just removed the product which was left on the paint for 1/2 hour and it wiped off effortlessly.
 
I finally had a chance to try out PWS today. I used it as a polish to see if it would remove some swirls/cobwebbing on my black Honda Pilot. I used a Meguiar's polishing pad, #8006. The speed of the pc was 5.

I was able to easily remove the swirls and wiping off the polish afterwards was very very easy. There was a little dusting, but not bad. Also, the finish was super slick. As a comparison, I did a couple of panels using Meguiar's #80 with a #8006 pad, which also removed the swirls. However, the finish was not nearly as slick as it was with PWS and it was much harder to remove the polish as compared to PWS.

Another thing I did, I didn't tape off my trim. I wanted to see what would happen if PWS went on it...well, all I had to do was wipe it off the trim and it was gone. No staining at all.

Is the reason it was so much more slick than #80 is because it's leaving a little sealant behind, even though I was using a polishing pad?

I was reading the label and it says, "Poorboy's Polish is a non abrasive polish that removes the oxidation and road grime, smooths the surface, and leaves a small amount of Carnauba wax..."

Is it really leaving Carnauba wax behind? If so, will there be a bonding issue when applying a sealant?

Since I used PWS as a polish, can I top it with a sealant right away, or do I need to give it some time first?
 
jsfofec said:
I was reading the label and it says, "Poorboy's Polish is a non abrasive polish that removes the oxidation and road grime, smooths the surface, and leaves a small amount of Carnauba wax..."

Is it really leaving Carnauba wax behind? If so, will there be a bonding issue when applying a sealant?

Since I used PWS as a polish, can I top it with a sealant right away, or do I need to give it some time first?
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Those are only temporary labels (formerly Polish w/ Carnauba labels) as they said in the Wizzard of Oz , " pay no attention to the man behind the curtains" or in this case the label ..lol
Yes you can go straight to your sealant of choice :)
 
jsfofec said:
Another thing I did, I didn't tape off my trim. I wanted to see what would happen if PWS went on it...well, all I had to do was wipe it off the trim and it was gone. No staining at all.
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I found the same. I had some one my trim and it was white and I thought that it stained. I was a little disappointed until I wiped it off... no residue and it looked fine :cool:. I then went ahead and put some PwS on some textured black plastic and looked the next day it was still black.
 
Poorboy said:
Those are only temporary labels (formerly Polish w/ Carnauba labels)
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Thanks...that's what I thought. I'm not sure why I was getting any dusting at all, because the product never dried. Do you think the dusting was due to the polishiing pad I was using...it was brand new? I still can't believe how easily it wiped off
 
budman3 said:
I found the same. I had some one my trim and it was white and I thought that it stained. I was a little disappointed until I wiped it off... no residue and it looked fine :cool:. I then went ahead and put some PwS on some textured black plastic and looked the next day it was still black.
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Maybe besides it being a cleaner, polish, sealant...it's also has built in taping :yay I've always disliked taping.
 
jsfofec said:
Thanks...that's what I thought. I'm not sure why I was getting any dusting at all, because the product never dried. Do you think the dusting was due to the polishiing pad I was using...it was brand new? I still can't believe how easily it wiped off
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Sometimes when the pad is manufactured some left over foam was left in the pores when they shaved the pad. This happened to me a few times before. Washing pads before using is always a good idea. I've also got dusting before when the pad itself wasn't completely clean...
 
awd330 said:
I'm one of the people that was campaigning for PwS version 1 (the orange colored version) to be released. That version was just about perfect for my well maintained personal vehicles, but Steve wanted a product that would be able to handle cars that were in a little rougher shape too. I was worried that a stronger product would be too aggressive for my paint, but it looks like Steve's chemist has come out with a versatile formula that can handle everything from a dainty garage queen finish to daily drivers with moderate paint defects. The slickness is indeed very impressive as well. I'm glad Steve made me wait for version 3! :)
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I was a glutton for the original version and used several gallons of the stuff. If he changes the color back to "creamsicle" and changes the scent back to original, HE WILL DEFINATELY HAVE A WINNER:yay
 
budman3 said:
Sometimes when the pad is manufactured some left over foam was left in the pores when they shaved the pad. This happened to me a few times before. Washing pads before using is always a good idea. I've also got dusting before when the pad itself wasn't completely clean...
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I wanted to follow up on my comment yesterday about some dusting. I did some more polishing this morning, using the pad I used for PwS yesterday, and I had absolutely no dusting. I'm sure the dust I saw was exactly what budman3 was saying. It was a brand new pad, that I hadn't cleaned, and the dusting I saw was actually from the pad and not PwS
 
Does anyone but me think we may have a replacement for Klasse AIO in the new PwS?
It sounds like it does everything the Klasse AIO does with a little more abrasive polishing action.
Right now when I do a full detail, I use a swirl remover followed by Klasse AIO, then my LSP. No worse than my swirls are, I might be able to use the PwS only and follow it up with my LSP.

Gee, I sure would hate to have to do without one extra step in my routine.:)

Charles
 
CharlesW, I thinkthat the PwS3 is more than KAIO. It has the abrassiveness of SSR 2 which is more than KAIO. It also will give a lot more protection. I always thought that KAIO was a little suspect as far as protection was concerned. PwS2 had six to eight week protection. Am testing PwS3 at this very moment. I think I am up to two weeks if memory serves me correctly. Still beading nicely.

I have noticed that the slickness has dropped off after an S&W wipedown but the beading still remains. It is raining outside as I type and the beads look very nice in the dark. Will post picutres in the daylight. Looks are still very nice as well.

PwS3 is pad dependant as well. I would think that this product would suit you very well considering how well you maintain the surface of your vehicles paint. Having one less step in my vehicles paint care is very attractive to me at this moment.
 
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