artm3
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business for `farmers` in CO should pick up
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business for `farmers` in CO should pick up
Ronkh
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and my food eats vegetables to become my food
where was the outcry when obama increased it more then all presidents combined....
I don’t think it would work unless the jobs come home, we drill tons of oil, and things get back to the way they should have been before we tried to create a middle class in every country in the world...
artm3
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actually reagan had the largest % increase in history
and that is still snow balling
calc interest of say 5% on 2 tril for 20 years
pv = 2 x e^(20 x 0.05), that`s what the 2 tril would be in 2008
obama
aging population
2 wars
bush tax cuts
unfunded prescription drug plan
interest on the 10 bil
lower revenue to to the recession
market 13000 to 6500
unemployment <5% to 10%
trump
unemployment <5%
market from 6500 to close to 20000 in 6-7 years
no major conflicts
but I said it doesn`t matter
no `outcry`
imo it does not matter
artm3
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https://www.google.com/amp/amp.time...from-cheering-the-economy-to-fearing-the-debt
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not saying it`s any one admins fault, more so congress and the `physics` of an aging population, expensive healthcare and military spending equal to the rest of the world combined (13 x china with 1/5th the population)
As for total debt, the CBO last predicted borrowings of $25.5 trillion by 2027. According to Riedl, the tax cuts, new discretionary outlays and additional interest on the extra spending could add $5 trillion to that number, bringing the total of $30 trillion. That’s 107% of the national income estimate projected by the CBO. The scariest unknown is what happens to interest expense. At $25.5 trillion, the CBO forecasts outlays for interest of $818 billion in 2027. Going to $30 trillion will raise the load to over $1 trillion. One dollar in seven in spending would be going to interest, versus one in 15 today.[/FONT]
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not saying it`s any one admins fault, more so congress and the `physics` of an aging population, expensive healthcare and military spending equal to the rest of the world combined (13 x china with 1/5th the population)
As for total debt, the CBO last predicted borrowings of $25.5 trillion by 2027. According to Riedl, the tax cuts, new discretionary outlays and additional interest on the extra spending could add $5 trillion to that number, bringing the total of $30 trillion. That’s 107% of the national income estimate projected by the CBO. The scariest unknown is what happens to interest expense. At $25.5 trillion, the CBO forecasts outlays for interest of $818 billion in 2027. Going to $30 trillion will raise the load to over $1 trillion. One dollar in seven in spending would be going to interest, versus one in 15 today.[/FONT]
Stokdgs
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You forgot to add under - Obama - the - how many Billion $$$ on pallets - to Switzerland to exchange into other currencies and then to Iran, the worst Terrorists in the World, in the dark of night..
Dan F
artm3
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You forgot to add under - Obama - the - how many Billion $$$ on pallets - to Switzerland to exchange into other currencies and then to Iran, the worst Terrorists in the World, in the dark of night..
Dan F
so you agree that 3.5 tril of the 10 tril debt he inherited was interest on reagans debt
plus the interest on 10 tril he inherited = 10 x e^(8 x 0.03) = 12.7, interest was low at 3%
so 2.7 was interest on the 10 tril, at least
you neglected to mention that it was their money, held for 35 years garnering interest
that we did not pay them, btw, it was ordered by an international court
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-bribed-iran-400-million-to-release-u-s-prisoners/
However, the $400 million dollar transfer was actually an openly announced one, paid in settlement of a nearly 40-year dispute between Iran and the United States — a settlement that likely saved the United States several billion dollars.
Back in late 1979, after Iranian revolutionaries took 52 Americans hostage at the US Embassy in Tehran, the United States severed diplomatic relations with Iran and froze Iranian assets in America. Among those frozen assets was a $400 million delivery of fighter jets from the U.S. that Iran’s previous government had already paid for.
the reason it was cash was due to the effectivness of the sanctions, they were frozen out of all banking systems
how about bush giving 200 mil to syria via iraq
us military loaded of chinooks
the iraqi`s took off to the syrian border
the military was ordered to let them go
happened many times
artm3
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donny is going to meet rocket man lol
rlmccarty2000
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Dueling bad haircuts.
artm3
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battle of mental giants lol
how about donny admitting he paid the porn star off...by accident
he had huckabee state that trump won arbitration against her when asked a question about the fiasco
by doing that she verified he was PARTY to the agreement, otherwise he would have no standing
dumb
Stokdgs
dansautodetailing.com
1. No, I do not agree to anything..
2. Numbers.... Yawn.....
3. You agree it is ok to give money to known terrorists for any reason ?
4. snopes.. who cares ?
5. Openly announced ??? Why is it no one knew about it ?? Announced to who ?? The terrorist Iranians ?? Tell me, ArtM3, did YOU personally get that announcement ??
Back in 1979 -- so you agree it was OK for the Iranians to take Americans hostage ?? And you agree that America somehow did something with supposedly 400 million in frozen assets, and even though this all happened because the Iranians took Americans hostage, we should be ok with giving them this money back - if was ever really in a place that we took it from ??? Is this like the new math ??? Is this like Benghazi ?? Bad things happened to Americans, we just look the other way or something ???
6. You agree that even though they had been doing Terrorist things that caused them to be sanctioned in the first place, that we should somehow let all this go, including what happened to the 52 hostages in 1979, and for some totally illogical reason, make sure we give them back money that they should have known would be a moot point once they started all this terrorist activity??? Would YOU have thought after all this terrible terrorist activity, that American should somehow, remember way back when, and at the most crucial moment, like we are going to play - "Be good and don`t build centrifuges or nuclear bombs, and we will give you money for no reason"??? You agree that this was ok to do ???
7. How about that Bush ! I don`t remember the details but I bet you would love to grind it all out for us..
8. No idea what that is..
9. ??
10. ??
11. ??
Dan F
artm3
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1. No, I do not agree to anything..
2. Numbers.... Yawn.....
3. You agree it is ok to give money to known terrorists for any reason ?
4. snopes.. who cares ?
5. Openly announced ??? Why is it no one knew about it ?? Announced to who ?? The terrorist Iranians ?? Tell me, ArtM3, did YOU personally get that announcement ??
Back in 1979 -- so you agree it was OK for the Iranians to take Americans hostage ?? And you agree that America somehow did something with supposedly 400 million in frozen assets, and even though this all happened because the Iranians took Americans hostage, we should be ok with giving them this money back - if was ever really in a place that we took it from ??? Is this like the new math ??? Is this like Benghazi ?? Bad things happened to Americans, we just look the other way or something ???
6. You agree that even though they had been doing Terrorist things that caused them to be sanctioned in the first place, that we should somehow let all this go, including what happened to the 52 hostages in 1979, and for some totally illogical reason, make sure we give them back money that they should have known would be a moot point once they started all this terrorist activity??? Would YOU have thought after all this terrible terrorist activity, that American should somehow, remember way back when, and at the most crucial moment, like we are going to play - "Be good and don`t build centrifuges or nuclear bombs, and we will give you money for no reason"??? You agree that this was ok to do ???
7. How about that Bush ! I don`t remember the details but I bet you would love to grind it all out for us..
8. No idea what that is..
9. ??
10. ??
11. ??
Dan F
1 well you did
2 you probably feel the same about facts
3 when did iranians kill Americans? how many civilians did the US kill in iraq/`stan?
some would consider that terrorism
4 see 2 above
5 just because you did not know doesn`t mean anyone else didn`t
congress did
was it ok for the US to help the shah`s secret police torture people?
none of it was `right`
you are rambling
6 logic, try it
7 selective memory
8 not surprising
9 see 8
10 see 8
11 see 8
artm3
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5 wide x 5 tall x 8 deep x (10,000 x $100 bills) per package = 200 mil $
that is how much fits in a ch-47 helo
numerous times tranferred to
syria, iran, al quaida, hamas, isis via iraq
by bush
so righteous
that is how much fits in a ch-47 helo
numerous times tranferred to
syria, iran, al quaida, hamas, isis via iraq
by bush
so righteous
artm3
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yes, the iranian people were a wee bit pissed at us
some would say for good reason
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK
[FONT="]Writing at the time of the Shah`s overthrow, [/FONT]Time magazine[FONT="] described SAVAK as having "long been Iran`s most hated and feared institution" which had "tortured and murdered thousands of the Shah`s opponents."[/FONT][SUP][24][/SUP][FONT="] The [/FONT]Federation of American Scientists[FONT="] also found it guilty of "the torture and execution of thousands of political prisoners" and symbolizing "the Shah`s rule from 1963–79." The FAS list of SAVAK torture methods included "electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails."[/FONT][SUP][25][/SUP][SUP][26][/SUP]
[FONT="]Amniyat-e Keshvar[/FONT][FONT="], literally "Organization of National Intelligence and Security") was the [/FONT]secret police[FONT="], domestic security and [/FONT]intelligence[FONT="] service of [/FONT]Pahlavi dynasty[FONT="]. It was established by Iran`s [/FONT]Mohammad Reza[FONT="] [/FONT]Shah[FONT="]with the help of the U.S. [/FONT]Central Intelligence Agency[FONT="] (CIA) and the Israeli [/FONT]MOSSAD[FONT="].[/FONT][SUP][1][/SUP][FONT="] SAVAK operated from 1957 until the [/FONT]Iranian Revolution[FONT="]of 1979, when the prime minister [/FONT]Shapour Bakhtiar[FONT="] ordered its dissolution during the outbreak of [/FONT]Iranian Revolution[FONT="]. SAVAK has been described as Iran`s "most hated and feared institution" prior to the [/FONT]revolution of 1979[FONT="]because of its practice of [/FONT]torturing[FONT="] and [/FONT]executing[FONT="] opponents of the Pahlavi regime.[/FONT][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP][FONT="]At its peak, the organization had as many as 60,000 agents serving in its ranks according to one source,[/FONT][SUP][4][/SUP][FONT="] although [/FONT]Gholam Reza Afkhami[FONT="]estimates SAVAK staffing at between 4,000 and 6,000.[/FONT][SUP][5]
Writing at the time of the Shah`s overthrow, Time magazine described SAVAK as having "long been Iran`s most hated and feared institution" which had "tortured and murdered thousands of the Shah`s opponents."[SUP][24][/SUP] The Federation of American Scientists also found it guilty of "the torture and execution of thousands of political prisoners" and symbolizing "the Shah`s rule from 1963–79." The FAS list of SAVAK torture methods included "electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails."[SUP][25][/SUP][SUP][26][/SUP][/SUP]
some would say for good reason
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK
[FONT="]Writing at the time of the Shah`s overthrow, [/FONT]Time magazine[FONT="] described SAVAK as having "long been Iran`s most hated and feared institution" which had "tortured and murdered thousands of the Shah`s opponents."[/FONT][SUP][24][/SUP][FONT="] The [/FONT]Federation of American Scientists[FONT="] also found it guilty of "the torture and execution of thousands of political prisoners" and symbolizing "the Shah`s rule from 1963–79." The FAS list of SAVAK torture methods included "electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails."[/FONT][SUP][25][/SUP][SUP][26][/SUP]
[FONT="]Amniyat-e Keshvar[/FONT][FONT="], literally "Organization of National Intelligence and Security") was the [/FONT]secret police[FONT="], domestic security and [/FONT]intelligence[FONT="] service of [/FONT]Pahlavi dynasty[FONT="]. It was established by Iran`s [/FONT]Mohammad Reza[FONT="] [/FONT]Shah[FONT="]with the help of the U.S. [/FONT]Central Intelligence Agency[FONT="] (CIA) and the Israeli [/FONT]MOSSAD[FONT="].[/FONT][SUP][1][/SUP][FONT="] SAVAK operated from 1957 until the [/FONT]Iranian Revolution[FONT="]of 1979, when the prime minister [/FONT]Shapour Bakhtiar[FONT="] ordered its dissolution during the outbreak of [/FONT]Iranian Revolution[FONT="]. SAVAK has been described as Iran`s "most hated and feared institution" prior to the [/FONT]revolution of 1979[FONT="]because of its practice of [/FONT]torturing[FONT="] and [/FONT]executing[FONT="] opponents of the Pahlavi regime.[/FONT][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP][FONT="]At its peak, the organization had as many as 60,000 agents serving in its ranks according to one source,[/FONT][SUP][4][/SUP][FONT="] although [/FONT]Gholam Reza Afkhami[FONT="]estimates SAVAK staffing at between 4,000 and 6,000.[/FONT][SUP][5]
Writing at the time of the Shah`s overthrow, Time magazine described SAVAK as having "long been Iran`s most hated and feared institution" which had "tortured and murdered thousands of the Shah`s opponents."[SUP][24][/SUP] The Federation of American Scientists also found it guilty of "the torture and execution of thousands of political prisoners" and symbolizing "the Shah`s rule from 1963–79." The FAS list of SAVAK torture methods included "electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails."[SUP][25][/SUP][SUP][26][/SUP][/SUP]
artm3
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a race to watch
special election for a house seat
the married pro-life repub holding it resigned after tapes came out with him telling his mistress to get an abortion
polls have the dem up slightly, but really a dead heat
solid repub district trump won by almost 20%
even if the dem loses by <5 that is a big swing
it`s steel country so the tariffs may help the repub
although the dem said he supports them
after the FL shooting he also maintained guns are not the problem
former Marine officer and federal prosecutor
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....-leads-by-4-points-in-pa-special-election?amp
special election for a house seat
the married pro-life repub holding it resigned after tapes came out with him telling his mistress to get an abortion
polls have the dem up slightly, but really a dead heat
solid repub district trump won by almost 20%
even if the dem loses by <5 that is a big swing
it`s steel country so the tariffs may help the repub
although the dem said he supports them
after the FL shooting he also maintained guns are not the problem
former Marine officer and federal prosecutor
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....-leads-by-4-points-in-pa-special-election?amp
artm3
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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/trump-sarah-sanders-stormy-daniels/index.html
On Wednesday, Sanders told reporters that the arbitration was won "in the President`s favor." The statement is an admission that the nondisclosure agreement exists, and that it directly involves the President. It is the first time the White House has admitted the President was involved in any way with Daniels.
https://news.google.com/news/amp?ca...tormy-daniels-arrangements-n855021#pt0-738707
President Donald Trump`s personal attorney used his Trump Organization email while arranging to transfer money into an account at a Manhattan bank before he wired $130,000 to adult film star Stormy Daniels to buy her silence.
On Wednesday, Sanders told reporters that the arbitration was won "in the President`s favor." The statement is an admission that the nondisclosure agreement exists, and that it directly involves the President. It is the first time the White House has admitted the President was involved in any way with Daniels.
https://news.google.com/news/amp?ca...tormy-daniels-arrangements-n855021#pt0-738707
President Donald Trump`s personal attorney used his Trump Organization email while arranging to transfer money into an account at a Manhattan bank before he wired $130,000 to adult film star Stormy Daniels to buy her silence.
Anthony O.
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I for one am shocked that a guy, like Trump, or any guy really, is attracted to a blond pornstar.
artm3
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yep, the heck with the wife and new born child
the Christian way, a man of moral fiber
isn`t adultary a violation of one of the Commandments?
another one
[FONT="]The majority leader of the Iowa Senate resigned Monday after a website published video and photos showing the married lawmaker kissing a statehouse lobbyist.
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https://news.google.com/news/amp?ca...bill-dix-iowa-senator-resignation/#pt0-255595
artm3
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Lamb might just pull this off
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_pa_031218/
trump won the district by 20%
if Lamb gets within 5 it is a good sign
if he wins it`s a miracle lol
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_pa_031218/
trump won the district by 20%
if Lamb gets within 5 it is a good sign
if he wins it`s a miracle lol