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House of Wax

House of Wax

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I know a lot of people here despise political talk. I`m starting a dedicated thread for it to keep it separate from any other topics to save those that don`t want to read through it.
 
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I`m a little concerned about some of Trumps latest moves, such as the Federal hiring freeze. I know he exempted some agencies, but one was not the VA. The VA always has a doctor shortage and demand way outstrips supply. Trump said he was going to help Veterans but I don`t see this helping Vets. When you do an across the board freeze instead of a line by line thorough job you wind up hurting people that need help. I agree the government is too big, but you have to be careful where you cut and how you do it.

Trumps gag gag order on the EPA. I don`t get it. Why is informing the public a bad idea. I see (unfortunately) an already lack of trust of government getting worse under Trump.

Trump continues to push for his stupid wall. Eisenhower built roads to connect people. Stalin built a wall to separate people. Can`t he build an imaginary wall in his head and be done with it? I think this is a true monument to stupidity. The Great Wall of Trump keeping out the hoards of invading Latinos. Absurd and a waste of our money.

Faux-facts or whatever they are being called today are lies. Call a spade a spade. This administration has a problem with the truth. Politicians lie, but wasn`t Trump supposed to "drain the swamp" and remove the liars (Hillary)? We need to get in touch with the truth. Go ahead and admit the election was not rigged. Tell people that Hillary will never go to jail. Admit that Trump University was a scheme to take people`s money. What I am asking is for Trump to come clean and start over. America loves a good apology.

I don`t want Trump to fail. God no. I want him to succeed and be put on Mount Rushmore. If someone wants him to fail they don`t know what they are asking for. I remember Nixon and his impeachment was a truly sad moment in American history. It makes all of America look bad. Trump needs to cut ties with all of his business ventures and do the job for which he was elected. I think he has enough money anyway. He is no longer a business man or a reality "star", he is now President of the United States and needs to act that way and quit preening for the cameras.
 
Accumulator said:
Heh heh, Note to Self... ;)
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I did it for you bud....hehe, just messin with ya. A lot of people get really wound up and hate seeing the discussion....this should remove that issue as everybody knows exactly what`s being discussed in this thread. If anyone decides to come on in, that`s on them
 
I agree on the VA. That should be high priority to clean up. If these politicians have the stones to send our men and women into war, they need to be sure to take care of them afterwards.
 
The VA is so large I do not believe it can be fixed. I have written my senators and congressmen and told them that the best way to move forward is by using a credit card system. Give Vets an unlimited policy to get theirselves fixed. It would be costly and there would be misuse, but Veterans would be able to get help. My wife uses Tricare which allows her to go to any doctor and get any medication (that is on a list) that she is prescribed. WOW! Can I get that? NO! Give me Tricare and make my wife go to the VA for care, lol. I just want to choose my own doctors, like most Americans. We get bottom of the barrel doctors that can`t get jobs anywhere else (for the most part). A credit card would allow Vets that don`t live in a town with a VA hospital to get care, too easy.

There are exceptions and I can see keeping some MAJOR hospitals open, but only a very few. Maybe 4-5. The VA is made up of civilians living off of the federal government. Duplication of effort is outrageous. Oh, the new VA director will be the first one that never served in the military, to me that is a step backwards. Give Veterans more control. If you don`t like your doctor you go find another. If I don`t like my doctor I get no care.

Fix the VA by dismantling the beast.
 
I really do wonder if it would be more cost effective closing the VA medical stuff, and just paying for regular Dr`s/hosps/meds.
 
Ronkh said:
I really do wonder if it would be more cost effective closing the VA medical stuff, and just paying for regular Dr`s/hosps/meds.
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At this point with national health care were people who pay or did nothing get better care then vets and there family`s I would say that may be the best thing. phase out VA hospitals or turn them over to private sector. Give vets the same health care as they are getting atleast they will have choices
 
Too many civilian job losses and many cities feed off of VA hospitals. It is kind of like BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) where everyone is for closing bases just as long as they are in someone else`s state. We need to close more bases in the US and overseas. All I heard from both Trump and Hillary was how they wanted to increase the size of the military, what a waste.
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
The VA is so large I do not believe it can be fixed. I have written my senators and congressmen and told them that the best way to move forward is by using a credit card system. Give Vets an unlimited policy to get theirselves fixed. It would be costly and there would be misuse, but Veterans would be able to get help. My wife uses Tricare which allows her to go to any doctor and get any medication (that is on a list) that she is prescribed. WOW! Can I get that? NO! Give me Tricare and make my wife go to the VA for care, lol. I just want to choose my own doctors, like most Americans. We get bottom of the barrel doctors that can`t get jobs anywhere else (for the most part). A credit card would allow Vets that don`t live in a town with a VA hospital to get care, too easy.

There are exceptions and I can see keeping some MAJOR hospitals open, but only a very few. Maybe 4-5. The VA is made up of civilians living off of the federal government. Duplication of effort is outrageous. Oh, the new VA director will be the first one that never served in the military, to me that is a step backwards. Give Veterans more control. If you don`t like your doctor you go find another. If I don`t like my doctor I get no care.

Fix the VA by dismantling the beast.
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I dunno about VA hospitals, but as a health care professional that takes Tricare as payment - I can say the way we are treating our vets is a disgrace. Used to be good - but it went horrible under Obama. Hopefully this will get fixed soon.


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