Angus
AspiringProductSpecialist
You don`t have to be that gentle with me....
I ain`t that fragile.
But I really am waiting to ask the guy who posted it.
Haha, I know. But can’t a guy be polite every once and a while???
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Haha, I know. But can’t a guy be polite every once and a while???
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Here`s a vid to keep you occupied till the guy comes thru
https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/967289862989627392
https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/967289862989627392
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Ronkh
Wax Waster
So the same people that think Trump is a tyrant/fascist etc, want to take our weapons away...........
hhmmmmmm
hhmmmmmm
artm3
New member
could not find it either
found this
you are only twice as likely to have a violent crime committed by a stranger as a family member!
and only 4 time more likely as your spouse, etc.
1/2 chance family
1/4 spouse
guns save over 100,000 lives per year?
but there were only ~17000 murders?
so without guns there would be >120,000?
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Seems like you two aren`t the only ones who couldn`t find it......
Do you have a reference for that? The 2016 report had a total of 224K persons in 135K households. So 108K seems really high, especially when a total of 1.3 per 1000 were victims of any violent crime. Also, there is nothing in the report about gun use to prevent crime.
Do you have a reference for that? The 2016 report had a total of 224K persons in 135K households. So 108K seems really high, especially when a total of 1.3 per 1000 were victims of any violent crime. Also, there is nothing in the report about gun use to prevent crime.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
University Study Confirms
Private Firearms
Stop Crime 2.5 Million Times Each Year
Private Guns Stop Crime 2.5M Times A Year In US
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The numbers speak louder than anti-rights rhetoric: more guns, less crime.
https://pjmedia.com/blog/fbi-crime-stats-show-an-armed-public-is-a-safer-public/1/
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Fact: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year or 6,849 every day. 8 Most often, the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.
Fact: Property crime rates are dropping (especially burglaries). The chart shows the legal handgun supply in America (mainly in civilian hands) relative to the property crime rate. 9
Fact: Every year 400,000 life-threatening violent crimes are prevented using firearms.
Fact: 60% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they knew the victim was armed. 40% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they thought the victim might be armed. 10
Fact: Felons report that they avoid entering houses where people are at home because they fear being shot. 11
Fact: 59% of the burglaries in Britain, which has tough gun control laws, are “hot burglaries” 12 which are burglaries committed while the home is occupied by the owner/renter. By contrast, the U.S., with more lenient gun control laws, has a “hot burglary” rate of only 13%. 13
Fact: Washington DC has essentially banned gun ownership since 1976 14 and has a murder rate of 56.9 per 100,000. Across the river in Arlington, Virginia, gun ownership is less restricted. There, the murder rate is just 1.6 per 100,000, less than three percent of the Washington, DC rate. 15
Fact: 26% of all retail businesses report keeping a gun on the premises for crime control. 16
Fact: In 1982, Kennesaw, GA passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate dropped 89% the following year. 17
Fact: A survey of felons revealed the following: 18
74% of felons agreed that, “One reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime.”
57% of felons polled agreed, “Criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police.”
Gun Facts | Gun Control and Crime
Private Firearms
Stop Crime 2.5 Million Times Each Year
Private Guns Stop Crime 2.5M Times A Year In US
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The numbers speak louder than anti-rights rhetoric: more guns, less crime.
https://pjmedia.com/blog/fbi-crime-stats-show-an-armed-public-is-a-safer-public/1/
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Fact: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year or 6,849 every day. 8 Most often, the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.
Fact: Property crime rates are dropping (especially burglaries). The chart shows the legal handgun supply in America (mainly in civilian hands) relative to the property crime rate. 9
Fact: Every year 400,000 life-threatening violent crimes are prevented using firearms.
Fact: 60% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they knew the victim was armed. 40% of convicted felons admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they thought the victim might be armed. 10
Fact: Felons report that they avoid entering houses where people are at home because they fear being shot. 11
Fact: 59% of the burglaries in Britain, which has tough gun control laws, are “hot burglaries” 12 which are burglaries committed while the home is occupied by the owner/renter. By contrast, the U.S., with more lenient gun control laws, has a “hot burglary” rate of only 13%. 13
Fact: Washington DC has essentially banned gun ownership since 1976 14 and has a murder rate of 56.9 per 100,000. Across the river in Arlington, Virginia, gun ownership is less restricted. There, the murder rate is just 1.6 per 100,000, less than three percent of the Washington, DC rate. 15
Fact: 26% of all retail businesses report keeping a gun on the premises for crime control. 16
Fact: In 1982, Kennesaw, GA passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate dropped 89% the following year. 17
Fact: A survey of felons revealed the following: 18
74% of felons agreed that, “One reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime.”
57% of felons polled agreed, “Criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police.”
Gun Facts | Gun Control and Crime
LashingStanley
New member
I completely agree. Hillary is bad for America. Not only because she`s a liar, but because she`s a woman.
Sure, Trump may have made thousands of false and misleading claims over the past year but at least he ain`t a lady.
artm3
New member
that is the problem
statements can be tossed out as fact and are never verified
fisa memos
the repubs will get the filtered, slanted version from fox
the dems the same from cnn
no one will print them out
and read/compare side by side
the dumbing down of America
statements can be tossed out as fact and are never verified
fisa memos
the repubs will get the filtered, slanted version from fox
the dems the same from cnn
no one will print them out
and read/compare side by side
the dumbing down of America
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Only thing that matters to me is was it used for the fisa warrant or not.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
artm3
New member
that has been thoroughly discredited
only 5000 samples
[FONT="]A 1997 National Institute of Justice publication[/FONT][SUP][22][/SUP][FONT="] demonstrated that it is virtually impossible to reconcile Kleck`s estimates and Kleck-like estimates to the amount of crime that actually occurs in the United States. Kleck, however, counter-argued that this conclusion was the product of logical errors and a mistake by the authors in which they made an inappropriate [/FONT]apples and oranges[FONT="] comparison.[/FONT][SUP][23]
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that would imply an adult would pull a gun once every 10 years
if every adult owned a gun
since the report the avg adult would have pulled 2.5 times
only 30% of households own guns
that would raise the number of pulls to 8 plus in 25 years
the number is ridiculous
Ronkh
Wax Waster
artm3
New member
the dossier?
one item was used (page met a russian agent in europe)
corroborated by 4 sources (all redacted, likely our guys and allied intell)
it was also stated that is was politically motivated to discredit candidate 1 (trump)
read the dem response
they were watching page well before the dossier and considered him `acting as a foreign agent`
the 4 judges
1 by reagan
1 by bush 1
2 by bush 2
artm3
New member
reality is not 2.5 mil gun saving lives a year
is that not the most likely use?
so even if only 10% were prevented murders that is 250.000
that is 15 times the actual no. of murders
defies logic and fact
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Just cuz it says that, don`t mean it`s real........
Need I remind you about the defensive gun use post?
artm3
New member
they cut actual pages from the application
anything not true will be vetted and refuted
read it
then form an opinion
lifetime nra member over 25 years
regular member before that (could not afford a lifetime)
ccw for ~30+ years
carry a PPS or P7
guns are not the problem
imo nor are they the solution
the solution is above my pay grade
enough politics
have a good evening
peace
Ronkh
Wax Waster
The solution is easy. Logic
Too few people with it though
Too few people with it though
Ronkh
Wax Waster
how do yo ulike the p7?
had a pps, sold to a friend, now have glock 43
had a pps, sold to a friend, now have glock 43