The "Really ?!?!?!?!" Thread

Accumulator said:
Why? Seriously..why must there be somebody (in the sense of a specific profession) to blame?

IMO "Society`s Ills" encompass a very complex dynamic and no one factor (let alone one profession) deserves to be singled out for blame.

Just as I posted about bankers- *SURE* there are some subhuman lawyers who profit from [stuff that shouldn`t happen], but none of the lawyers *I* know IRL (and that`s not just eight or ten) are like that. Every member of the legal profession I`ve ever known IRL has been a great human being who does work they can be proud of.

I always wonder if the people who blame the lawyers/bankers/whatever actually know very many members of that profession personally. If I`m wrong, and somebody *does* know predatory bankers and shifty lawyers please correct me, but IMO they`re just an easy target and the few bad apples get all the press.

[Accumulator climbs down off his soapbox :o ]
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Well said !! Thank you !

It seems now a days that there always has to be blame associated with something. Someone`s gotta pay, or someone has to go to jail etc.......
 
Ronkh- And I oughta add something about how the usual Shakespearean quote on the subject is invariably taken out of context...people don`t know from the Bard these days. You were being a bit too subtle, I fear...
 
Accumulator said:
Ronkh- And I oughta add something about how the usual Shakespearean quote on the subject is invariably taken out of context...people don`t know from the Bard these days. You were being a bit too subtle, I fear...
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I`m trying to turn over a new leaf in life, being subtle tactful Ron ??
 
isn`t is odd that conservatives go after Planned Parenthood yet they support billions for Israel that has legal abortion (board reviews), subsidized education (10% of GDP per wikipedia) with a highly rated education system (college tuition is under $2000 per year (Source: Haaretz), and depend on the US to assist them to pay for their defense.
 
Bunky said:
isn`t is odd that conservatives go after Planned Parenthood yet they support billions for Israel that has legal abortion (board reviews), subsidized education (10% of GDP per wikipedia) with a highly rated education system (college tuition is under $2000 per year (Source: Haaretz), and depend on the US to assist them to pay for their defense.
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odd how?
 
Bunky said:
isn`t is odd that conservatives go after Planned Parenthood yet they support billions for Israel...
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Well, there are a few Conservatives like Yours Truly who support *both* Planned Parenthood and Israel.

I do have some issues with the Govt. supporting Planned Parenthood though. IMO its funding oughta be the sole responsibility of private citizens such as myself who deliberately, and personally, want to put their money where they think it should go. Using taxes, in other words using *every taxpayer`s money* forces people who don`t approve of Planned Parenthood to fund it despite their objections and that seems unfair since it`s a private entity (as opposed to part of the Govt.).

So one can support Planned Parenthood while not wanting tax $ spent on it.

Tax $ spent supporting Israel I consider another "cost of supporting our allies". Regrettable but necessary, and I`d feel the same way even if I weren`t a big supporter of Israel in general. We send plenty of $ to countries I wish didn`t exist, again, regrettable but necessary.
 
Most lawyers I know (I have friends that are lawyers) think other lawyers are scumbags. The take cases on a contingency and if they win they get the majority of the money. Shyster, they even have their own word! My ex-wife was a lawyer (graduated from Emory University, paid for by Uncle Sam) and the things she used to tell me about the tactics that they used would make me ill. The lawyer that took that Starbucks suit should be disbarred. The court system is clogged up with frivolous suits. 0.6 percent of the US population are lawyers, but 41 percent of the 113th Congress are lawyers. Members of Congress are 68 times more likely to have practiced law than the average American citizen. 57 percent of the members of the Senate are lawyers. Anyone want to throw out a theory why our lawmakers can`t agree on anything? Lawyers are highly educated and much wealthier than your average US citizen and just out of touch with the needs of Jonn Q. Public. I have known a few lawyers that weren`t successful, but they were drunks and drug addicts.
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
much wealthier than your average US citizen and just out of touch with the needs of Jonn Q. Public.
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I do not think they are "out of touch" per se but they have a system of their own just like the political process. You can see it in any organization (a local church. school, PTA, a company with levels of management) that is there a "system" that is geared to either wanting control, egos, make money, status, etc. It is often at the expense of someone or some group. As we see with some people (like anyone wanting to hear Sarah Palin speak), there is plenty of money to made off people.
 
Bunky said:
I do not think they are "out of touch" per se but they have a system of their own just like the political process. You can see it in any organization (a local church. school, PTA, a company with levels of management) that is there a "system" that is geared to either wanting control, egos, make money, status, etc. It is often at the expense of someone or some group. As we see with some people (like anyone wanting to hear Sarah Palin speak), there is plenty of money to made off people.
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Bwahahahahahahahahahahh


Hillary = 250k for 20 min speech....
 
Ronkh said:
Bwahahahahahahahahahahh

Hillary = 250k for 20 min speech....
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These speaking fees are a real source of money for many of the talking heads on TV. You make yourself a name in the news and then go on the speaker circuit.

With Hilliary one is really donating to Hilliary for influence/support (like wall street). I am not sure about what you get when you pay to hear Sarah except a headache.
 
Bunky said:
These speaking fees are a real source of money for many of the talking heads on TV. You make yourself a name in the news and then go on the speaker circuit.

With Hilliary one is really donating to Hilliary for influence/support (like wall street). I am not sure about what you get when you pay to hear Sarah except a headache.
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Guess you can`t handle people who prove the great O, and H completely oblivious :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6741sA729lw
 
rlmccarty2000 said:
Most lawyers I know (I have friends that are lawyers) think other lawyers are scumbags...
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Well, OK. but the lawyers you know are sure a lot different from the ones that I know (family members and close friends included). IMO there`s [scum] in any profession and I`m opposed to generalizing.

Bunky said:
.. As we see with some people (like anyone wanting to hear Sarah Palin speak), there is plenty of money to made off people.
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Heh heh, that`s probably the best, most amusing, thing I`ll see here today!

IMO paying to hear her speak is an intelligence test.

Ronkh said:
Bwahahahahahahahahahahh


Hillary = 250k for 20 min speech....
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Ya know...if it were down to the two of `em, and I had to listen...

While my politics are *infinitely* more aligned with Palin`s and almost diametrically opposed to Hillary`s, Hillary is a smart person with a broad knowledge base and I usually find such people far more interesting even when I vehemently disagree with them.

Hillary and I could have a *discussion* that could encompass a vast array of topics and we`d both come away convinced that the other is wrong. Palin and I might discuss our preferences in firearms and we might agree completely (or not).

Guess you can`t handle people who prove the great O, and H completely oblivious
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Well, it`s not like liberal Democrats have a monopoly on that. Plenty of conservative Republicans are as smart as a bag of hair and are thus oblivious on pretty much every topic even when I just happen to agree with their viewpoints.

Just because I agree/disagree with somebody on something, that doesn`t mean that they are/aren`t smart/stupid.
 
Accumulator said:
While my politics are *infinitely* more aligned with Palin`s and almost diametrically opposed to Hillary`s, Hillary is a smart person with a broad knowledge base and I usually find such people far more interesting even when I vehemently disagree with them.

Hillary and I could have a *discussion* that could encompass a vast array of topics and we`d both come away convinced that the other is wrong. Palin and I might discuss our preferences in firearms and we might agree completely (or not).
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But you`d never be able to tell if what`s coming out of her mouth is the truth.....
 
Ronkh said:
But you`d never be able to tell if what`s coming out of her mouth is the truth.....
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Which "her"? Heh heh heh...

With either, I often think "how can people *believe* that could be true?!?" Seems to me they`re (both) used to really stupid, or at least bereft of critical thinking, audiences..and/or they only really *discuss* stuff with people who agree with them, otherwise they just spew BS that`s easy to see for what it is.

My bottom line is pretty much that stupid people are boring whereas smart people are interesting. "Interesting" not always implying that I believe they`re telling the truth much less that I agree with them.
 
Accumulator said:
Which "her"? Heh heh heh...

With either, I often think "how can people *believe* that could be true?!?" Seems to me they`re (both) used to really stupid, or at least bereft of critical thinking, audiences..and/or they only really *discuss* stuff with people who agree with them, otherwise they just spew BS that`s easy to see for what it is.

My bottom line is pretty much that stupid people are boring whereas smart people are interesting. "Interesting" not always implying that I believe they`re telling the truth much less that I agree with them.
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Meh. That makes too much sense. Just look at network news.........
 
The political process corrupts you just like fame or money can change someone. You can get warped since of self-importance. You see this with these responses to questions and quickly deflected to something else. I am still waiting for all the young elected ones to do term limits, make congress have the same health care and benefits as regular citizens, drug test before votes, end pensions for congress, and work for $15/hr.
 
Bunky said:
The political process corrupts you just like fame or money can change someone. You can get warped since of self-importance. You see this with these responses to questions and quickly deflected to something else. I am still waiting for all the young elected ones to do term limits, make congress have the same health care and benefits as regular citizens, drug test before votes, end pensions for congress, and work for $15/hr.
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You seem to do the same...........

Just sayin
 
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